Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

"this isn't going as planned"

I hope all these Biden voters turn out in the general election after the months and months of Biden #metoo, dementia, and Burisma corruption stories we have to look forward to. It's on them now.

― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:39 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if only there was any indication of this for the last year

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:02 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The foreseeasbility of it makes the Biden votes more puzzling,

Bloomberg at least has been consistent about pledging money and support to whomever the nominee turns out to be.

My mom's in southeast PA, and where she is has seen steady shifts blue post-asshole, so fingers crossed.

Bloomberg at least has been consistent about pledging money and support to whomever the nominee turns out to be.

Yeah, I'm waiting to see if this turns out to be true.

The foreseeability of Trump attacking Fidel Sanders too.

I’d say go neg on health prospects for biden but there’s a catch.

Bloomberg at least has been consistent about pledging money and support to whomever the nominee turns out to be.

Yeah, I'm waiting to see if this turns out to be true.

Bloomberg now has his candidates who will ensure he doesn't pay anymore in taxes. He's good.

I don't hold much faith in the candidate himself, but I do hope that he'll have the muscle of the party behind him and that they will have learned from history and not make the same mistakes.

Yeah, this is where I'm finding optimism. Surrogates who can make the case for turning out to defeat Trump will help.

my new take is that neither bernie nor biden should’ve run at all.

raise your hand if you want another fun primary in 2024

― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:47 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that is my old take ^^^.

― Yerac, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:48 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yep yep yep. I got actually angry at both of their announcements that they were going to run. For a whole bunch of reasons, I don't think either has any business being in the race. Either/both of them could have had a big influence on it from the outside, if they'd wanted.

But here we are.

Dems take Senate, Biden is President: rich people pay more taxes
Dems take Senate, Sanders is President: rich people pay more taxes
Dems don't take Senate, Biden is President: rich people don't pay more taxes
Dem's don't take Senate, Sanders is President: rich people don't pay more taxes

I thought Sanders should've made way for Warren last year, but we know how this might've turned out too.

Hell he's said as much in private

remarks leaked to the press.

― by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:02 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if you mean as some kind of disinfo, nope; they were surreptitiously recorded and handed over to the house intelligence commitee

sustained O proximity

otmfm

that's as simple as it is

that cnn story highlights bloomps poor campaign roi and i- LOLOLOL. too on the nose, but also when youre pie is infinite big wgaf? not working? of course not. but bad roi? that train left a couple hundred mil ago, dipshits

your

Bloomberg campaign will go down in CW history as why we don't need to get big money out of politics really

it's fun to focus on biden's cognitive decline, but let's think about all these other negatives
-- voted for the iraq war
-- anita hill
-- 90s crime bill
-- handsiness
-- advocating for cutting medicare and social security
-- emails burisma nonsense

i would think all those would have more of an impact than 'he supported the sandinistas in 1987' but then again, i am young

^^^
Except the young part.

otoh Biden seems most likely to actually strike Trump during a debate

So I don't see why I should be pooping on Biden when his potential election gets me much of what I'd want from a president for the next four years. Which is to say, what someone here or somewhere else said, a president you can ignore. That's the upside of boring.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is that really all you want?

those are all bad things but many of the populations you'd think would be incensed by some of them (like, black voters) don't seem to hold a grudge about it. So I don't think it's going to affect his electibility in November among the demographics that actually seem to turn out and vote. I'm not looking forward to hearing six months (or 4 years) of Burisma griping; fuck we've barely gotten past Benghazi bullshit.

sustained O proximity

otmfm

that's as simple as it is

but that doesn't explain why ppl still like O so much if he was such a disaster for working americans

like maybe O still being so popular should be a tell about the electorate

they like "compassionate" smoothies who fuck them over

was he great for working Americans? do go on

no, don't

Another potential ray of optimism is that Biden will, one hopes, choose a demographically innovative running mate (a woman, a person of color, a woman of color)

Y'know to offset the "omg another doddering old white dude" factor

and then while in office he dies or drifts further into bewildered senility

fantasy outcome: Madam President Abrams

xpost It's not *all* I want, but it's a start.

those are all bad things but many of the populations you'd think would be incensed by some of them (like, black voters) don't seem to hold a grudge about it. So I don't think it's going to affect his electibility in November among the demographics that actually seem to turn out and vote. I'm not looking forward to hearing six months (or 4 years) of Burisma griping; fuck we've barely gotten past Benghazi bullshit.

― akm, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:38 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

once the general campaign starts trump can say, 'biden advocated cutting medicare and social security for years. i never cut medicare or social security.' he would technically be right, and then he would cut funding for those programs in his second term

xp

JoshinC is right. It's a cheap shot for a Lefty McLeftface to be all like "oh, so all you want is for the president not be Trump? Why not set your sights higher?" Dude, we generally *have*, but if we don't get exactly what we want we can still find consolation in getting *something*. This is not hard.

getting the absolute next worst thing is "something"; awesome as always

Dem elites and their loyal subjects rally around a right wing war criminal who can't string together two coherent sentences and expect us to passively swallow it. Fuck that. Going up against these corrupt hustlers was never gonna be easy. Dare to struggle. Dare to win. #NotMeUs pic.twitter.com/mmBye0fttF

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 4, 2020

guess who's winning

Health insurance stock prices are soaring right now following Biden's Super Tuesday. pic.twitter.com/xXECABFDqu

— Bob Herman (@bobjherman) March 4, 2020

Ok Josh I get the feeling that simply getting rid of Trump is enough for a lot of ppl.

xps not a cheap shot, but I was asking.

I don't find consolation in not doing anything about a burning planet. For a start.

the uphill battle's not over yet otm xp

xyz get the fuck out of this thread

for once I'm mad there's no debate this week

New: Elizabeth Warren's campaign manager Roger Lau has just sent an email to all staff, first thanking them, and also sharing this blunt assessment about last night:

“We fell well short of viability goals and projections, and we are disappointed in the results.”

— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) March 4, 2020

dennis perrin posting propaganda, you love to see it

otoh Biden seems most likely to actually strike Trump during a debate

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes),

I was about to ask more about what you meant here and then i realized maybe you meant strike with his hand?!

can you get the fuck out of this thread as well?

if you mean as some kind of disinfo, nope; they were surreptitiously recorded and handed over to the house intelligence commitee

the Parnas tape? that was re: Hillary picking Bernie as her running mate, not Biden.

They are wrong most of the time.

Also, when is it okay to kvetch about African American primary voters? Never? Fine. But hang around long enough and you'll have some resentments.

So I don't see why I should be pooping on Biden when his potential election gets me much of what I'd want from a president for the next four years. Which is to say, what someone here or somewhere else said, a president you can ignore. That's the upside of boring.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Is that really all you want?

Eh zing put two quotes in there. Was going to reply to sanpakus post but sbed him instead. Terrible poster.

can you get the fuck out of this thread as well?

― sleeve, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:52 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

is this directed at me? sure

yeah, i mean it'll become much less boring after the 2022 midterms, but why even think about that.

xp

Step 1 get whatever you can get
Step 2 try to force them to do better
Step 3 replace with improved officeholder
blather rinse repeat

Brexit was a thirty year project backed by a referendum result etc.

"Get Trump out" is in no way a comparable analogy. Or maybe it is, I look forward to seeing whether that slogan lands xpost to caek

Bernie was basically the only candidate who didn't run an Obama is my bff ad. After getting wiped out in the South, he releases this ad the next day. (in one SC ad, he had a shot of them together but it wasn't like this) pic.twitter.com/JNgtFb0q26

— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) March 4, 2020

I look forward to the point where everyone has been sternly forbidden from posting in this thread. Then we will have a de facto repeat of

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