Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

It's not over yet, Sanders is looking good in the races next tuesday. Michigan is an especially good state for him. There's time for yet another comeback.

WOW! Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is, or what he’s doing. Honestly, I don’t think he even knows what office he's running for! pic.twitter.com/454v9GFpgF

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2020

The young didn't show up.

The young go to festivals and stream music; they'll get the t-shirt but don't actually buy a cd or zip-file of mp3s.

It straight-up doesn't matter that Trump's brain is a molten ruin, his attacks on Biden's mental fitness will stick simply because he's a loud asshole.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions, here we are again with predictions.

Get Joe some of the same dexies Trump uses, make it a fair fight.

In many ways it won't matter who wins. No action on the things that matter, but at least if Trump loses he will be going back to his noisy twitter account, backing Ivanka's run in 2024.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions

Didn't predictions change to reflect the droppout of Pete and Amy though? And the margin of SC?

Topic: does anvil think he’s funny? Just asking questions.

If there's one thing that's been pretty clear, it's that we've consistently underestimated Joe Biden. I think we need to course correct and predict he will win every state from here on out, and win a landslide in November.

(xp to multiple emoji “jokes”)

fuck off back to your own boring thread
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Make me

We're just Europeans trying to figure out wtf is going over there, that's all 🐍🐍🐍

Same as going on over there, most posters live in an echo bubble that makes them think the cool old socialist is going to do really well

Cool old socialist grandpa is what posters like.

Unlike your country, however, the conservatives consistently lose the popular vote, and despite our atavistic rules, it looks like they are likely to lose the electoral college as well this year, even if a handsy doddering coot gets the nom

As I said it doesn't matter. No action on the important issues.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions, here we are again with predictions.

Evergreen post, Alfred. I may just leave this in my clipboard to paste in whenever necessary

Unimportant issues:

Federal courts
Climate change
NATO
China
Pandemic(s)
Etc.

Basically the only job of the federal government is redistribution of wealth? Good to know, seems like a winner, will keep in mind.

Important issues:

@ing Trump on twitter, calling him a loser post-November after every single tweet.

That's it.

Since when has humanity's fundamental inability to predict the future ever restrained them from nonetheless taking those futile stabs in the dark at every turn. I ask you.

If Pete and Amy had pulled out earlier Bernie wouldn't have even got this far, but at time it looked like Biden had checked out mentally

he has looked a little more with it recently

Last night, he confused his wife with his sister.

What do we think of Biden's chances in November?

HAHAHA

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Voting Sanders on 4/28.

Biden has a chance, but I don't see him getting a whole lot more votes than Clinton did in '16. Are there enough enthusiastic Trump voters of '16 disillusioned now all of a sudden? Can't imagine it.

there's definitely a subset of Trump voters who can't stand the guy anymore. whether or not they'll cast votes for Biden or sit out, who knows. but even with incumbent advantage the fact that he's never really polled over 43% after his first month seems significant

I know that Biden & Sanders poll about equally vs. Trump *right now* but by going with Biden we're basically guaranteeing 7 months of attacks over Ukraine & Burisma, Joe getting handsy, plus whether or not he's sundowning, and it will be infuriating because it'll be spearheaded by a corrupt rapist who is unequivocally the dumbest president in US history. and the media will breathlessly amplify it because they want Trump to win. not that they would help Sanders either but somehow I feel like you'd do a lot better talking about Universal Health Care in the midst of a pandemic, when the Republican party is actively trying to punt 20 million people off their insurance.

that said, young people didn't come out for the primary so maybe Sanders wasn't going to win either. who knows.

I'll post the link to a story about the Virginia exit polls, the latter of which showed who comprised the Biden coalition there, among whom were independents and former Republicans who detest Trump, i.e. the people who helped flip Virginia in 2017 and 2018.

I really, really, really, really wish xyz would shut the fuck up. Terrible poster

the petulance on this thread is absurd. You've lived a lifetime of seeing unremarkable white men get things they shouldn't. How is today any different?

anger is an energy

yeah but when it's directed at the wrong people it does the opposite of what you are likely intending.

...and most of the complainants are white men

Self-loathing is an energy.

white men hate seeing unremarkable white men getting things they shouldn’t too!

ppl w/ low standards should stay the fuck home

I always told my dear departed white Irish-American mother she shouldn't vote

even Trump is horny for Bernie

The Democrat establishment came together and crushed Bernie Sanders, AGAIN! Even the fact that Elizabeth Warren stayed in the race was devastating to Bernie and allowed Sleepy Joe to unthinkably win Massachusetts. It was a perfect storm, with many good states remaining for Joe!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2020

So selfish for Elizabeth Warren to stay in the race. She has Zero chance of even coming close to winning, but hurts Bernie badly. So much for their wonderful liberal friendship. Will he ever speak to her again? She cost him Massachusetts (and came in third), he shouldn’t!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2020

I get that he's clearly angling for Bernie supporters but still, stopped clock etc etc

Chances were very good (as they always are) that the candidate for president was going to be underwhelming. I've long accepted that much. My primary concern is whether the candidate in question is so underwhelming that people can't be bothered to roll out of bed and vote.

It looks like I'm gonna be repeating this all day, but what "people" can't be "bothered"? People who look like you? Last night refuted this notion.

Morbs doubling down with the Johnny Lydon quotes!

Young people once again not to the rescue. But hey, maybe they'll turn out in record numbers in November, blah blah.

For whatever reason there were people out there, who either out of honesty or as an excuse just detested Clinton, and instead voted third party, voted Asshole, or stayed home. I can't imagine Asshole having gained significant support these past few years, so the question is whether Biden could win back those others. I don't get the feeling that anyone outright hates him (other than for not being Sanders), so as long as he runs an OK campaign I imagine he'll do well enough. A lot depends on how he hits at Asshole, but obviously that's sort of a dealer's choice.

is it true that warren staying in the race was devastating to bernie

here’s a list of ppl i don’t want to hear talk about this:
1. trump
2. xyz
3. fred b

I'll preface this by saying that I still intend to vote for Bernie in the Ohio primary on 3/17, futile thought it may be, but Bernie's supporters insisted in 2016 all the way to election day that people should vote their conscience no matter what, and this time it bit them in the ass. Hard.

morning, guys. last night sucked

save the race card for November, Merlin

who comprised

alfred!

is it true that warren staying in the race was devastating to bernie

here’s a list of ppl i don’t want to hear talk about this:
1. trump
2. xyz
3. fred b

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), 4. marts 2020 14:18 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feeling better than I probably should about this ranking :)

the really dangerous scenario for alienating people is bernie having a delegate lead but being just short of a majority with biden getting the nomination via superdelegates. if biden is ahead anyway or wins outright i think you only lose the same small amount of people who wouldn't have voted for any other dem as last time instead of the more widespread feeling of betrayal and disillusionment you could get with a "superdelegates steal the nomination for biden" narrative.

― ufo, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

you recently said it wasn’t over for bernie. everyone who says this gets a single point (1) from me

xp

warren staying in was a little bad for bernie but not devastating. if she doesn't drop out now though then she truly is just in it to wreck though

as long as he runs an OK campaign I imagine he'll do well enough

lol

honestly if biden wins the nom my initial concern is going to be for the health and well-being of hunter biden

who comprised
alfred!

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 4, 2020

I had a full night's rest, shouldn't have happened.