Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

I think he'd have a good chance, barring a mass accelerationist gambit and the hard left all voting Trump to purge the Democrat party and clear the decks for Queen Alexandria

As long as he writes down the address I'm sure he'll be fine

Trump has incumbent advantage. That’s big, and any Democratic nominee will be facing that. But it’s the stuff that’s specific to Biden that’ll do for him.

- his decline, if that’s what we’re calling it. Seriously, he looks and sounds awful now. How is he going to handle debates or scrutiny?

- months and months of shithousing over Hunter Biden

- is Trump going to call him a groper and lech every day and get away with it? Absolutely.

Biden has a chance, but I don't see him getting a whole lot more votes than Clinton did in '16. Are there enough enthusiastic Trump voters of '16 disillusioned now all of a sudden? Can't imagine it.

I have read that some of the Bernie Bros are plotting not to vote for him though, some are even going as far as talking about using a new emoji. This may hand the election to Trump and could be something to watch out for

RCP has Sanders/Trump and Biden/Trump almost identical but I suspect there will be more Berniebros fulfilling the 2016 narrative of staying home this time if Biden is the nominee and especially if he doesn't get a delegate majority before the convention.

If Biden can convince the masses that his groping is actually the laying on of hands, proving that he is in fact Jesus Christ, his chances would greatly improve.

trump is unpopular enough and had such a slight margin of victory that i wouldn't rule out biden but i also absolutely believe he could completely throw the election worse than hillary managed to. he can make trump seem coherent in comparison!

And there’s tons of stuff you can throw at Biden and most of it’s true. Let alone stuff like this.

please do not nominate this guy. pic.twitter.com/EZHQEuJtGo

— Elon Green (@elongreen) March 2, 2020

the really dangerous scenario for alienating people is bernie having a delegate lead but being just short of a majority with biden getting the nomination via superdelegates. if biden is ahead anyway or wins outright i think you only lose the same small amount of people who wouldn't have voted for any other dem as last time instead of the more widespread feeling of betrayal and disillusionment you could get with a "superdelegates steal the nomination for biden" narrative.

Which of course will be the wound pressed at every opportunity by Trump.

I think he'd have a good chance, barring a mass accelerationist gambit and the hard left all voting Trump to purge the Democrat party and clear the decks for Queen Alexandria

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

You outdo yourself talking crap everytime you post, how do you do it?

That was my own cheeky way of suggesting that Bernie's crew might in part abstain. I'm not casting judgement either way

oi

Good morning!

I feel like all the wailing about "the establishment" overlooks the fact that millions of actual real-people voters cast ballots in these races. It's easier to say "fuck the establishment" than "fuck all those regular people who happen to disagree with me," I guess.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:27 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

How about “fuck trump”

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:31 AM (four hours ago)

Best exchange. Did y'all see the African American voting numbers? They're stunning. They came out.

If he'd run in '16, Biden probably would've taken it. Now, outlook uncertain.

It was always uncertain.

In many ways it won't matter who wins. No action on the things that matter, but at least if Trump loses he will be going back to his noisy twitter account, backing Ivanka's run in 2024.

Ivanka vs AOC 2028

It's not over yet, Sanders is looking good in the races next tuesday. Michigan is an especially good state for him. There's time for yet another comeback.

WOW! Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is, or what he’s doing. Honestly, I don’t think he even knows what office he's running for! pic.twitter.com/454v9GFpgF

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2020

The young didn't show up.

The young go to festivals and stream music; they'll get the t-shirt but don't actually buy a cd or zip-file of mp3s.

It straight-up doesn't matter that Trump's brain is a molten ruin, his attacks on Biden's mental fitness will stick simply because he's a loud asshole.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions, here we are again with predictions.

Get Joe some of the same dexies Trump uses, make it a fair fight.

In many ways it won't matter who wins. No action on the things that matter, but at least if Trump loses he will be going back to his noisy twitter account, backing Ivanka's run in 2024.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions

Didn't predictions change to reflect the droppout of Pete and Amy though? And the margin of SC?

Topic: does anvil think he’s funny? Just asking questions.

If there's one thing that's been pretty clear, it's that we've consistently underestimated Joe Biden. I think we need to course correct and predict he will win every state from here on out, and win a landslide in November.

(xp to multiple emoji “jokes”)

fuck off back to your own boring thread
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Make me

We're just Europeans trying to figure out wtf is going over there, that's all 🐍🐍🐍

Same as going on over there, most posters live in an echo bubble that makes them think the cool old socialist is going to do really well

Cool old socialist grandpa is what posters like.

Unlike your country, however, the conservatives consistently lose the popular vote, and despite our atavistic rules, it looks like they are likely to lose the electoral college as well this year, even if a handsy doddering coot gets the nom

As I said it doesn't matter. No action on the important issues.

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions, here we are again with predictions.

Evergreen post, Alfred. I may just leave this in my clipboard to paste in whenever necessary

Unimportant issues:

Federal courts
Climate change
NATO
China
Pandemic(s)
Etc.

Basically the only job of the federal government is redistribution of wealth? Good to know, seems like a winner, will keep in mind.

Important issues:

@ing Trump on twitter, calling him a loser post-November after every single tweet.

That's it.

Since when has humanity's fundamental inability to predict the future ever restrained them from nonetheless taking those futile stabs in the dark at every turn. I ask you.

If Pete and Amy had pulled out earlier Bernie wouldn't have even got this far, but at time it looked like Biden had checked out mentally

he has looked a little more with it recently

Last night, he confused his wife with his sister.

What do we think of Biden's chances in November?

HAHAHA

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Voting Sanders on 4/28.

Biden has a chance, but I don't see him getting a whole lot more votes than Clinton did in '16. Are there enough enthusiastic Trump voters of '16 disillusioned now all of a sudden? Can't imagine it.

there's definitely a subset of Trump voters who can't stand the guy anymore. whether or not they'll cast votes for Biden or sit out, who knows. but even with incumbent advantage the fact that he's never really polled over 43% after his first month seems significant

I know that Biden & Sanders poll about equally vs. Trump *right now* but by going with Biden we're basically guaranteeing 7 months of attacks over Ukraine & Burisma, Joe getting handsy, plus whether or not he's sundowning, and it will be infuriating because it'll be spearheaded by a corrupt rapist who is unequivocally the dumbest president in US history. and the media will breathlessly amplify it because they want Trump to win. not that they would help Sanders either but somehow I feel like you'd do a lot better talking about Universal Health Care in the midst of a pandemic, when the Republican party is actively trying to punt 20 million people off their insurance.

that said, young people didn't come out for the primary so maybe Sanders wasn't going to win either. who knows.

I'll post the link to a story about the Virginia exit polls, the latter of which showed who comprised the Biden coalition there, among whom were independents and former Republicans who detest Trump, i.e. the people who helped flip Virginia in 2017 and 2018.

I really, really, really, really wish xyz would shut the fuck up. Terrible poster

the petulance on this thread is absurd. You've lived a lifetime of seeing unremarkable white men get things they shouldn't. How is today any different?

anger is an energy

yeah but when it's directed at the wrong people it does the opposite of what you are likely intending.