Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

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In eight years, the Times is going to be running exposes on the time AOC did coke in the bathroom when she was a BARTENDER


Can’t wait for all her popularity with centrists to evaporate when she decides to run in 2024.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:23 (six years ago)

Biden is the most senior democrat, he was VP for eight years! xxxp to gyac

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:23 (six years ago)

endorsed Warrenbuchar you mean

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:24 (six years ago)

Lol I know but like...everything else. He should have run in 16 as well.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:24 (six years ago)

That's not a real person, milo

Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:24 (six years ago)

NYT editorial staff and Warren 🐍, clearly Bernie has not done his homework

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:26 (six years ago)

huh, I guess AOC will be eligible to run in 2024, she'll turn 35 a month before the election, I thought she was a full year too young

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:27 (six years ago)

anyway

weve all had elections lately, what have we learned about how each of us was actually 100% correct

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:29 (six years ago)

that conservatives win

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:29 (six years ago)

^^ ding ding ding.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:30 (six years ago)

I am never 100% correct I'm only a humble soul.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:32 (six years ago)

I doubt that's what deems has learned...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:32 (six years ago)

Well if you live in the UK you might feel ever justified in your belief in fishhook theory, especially when you have the same people who were scaremongering about a Labour government now belatedly realising - but not apologising for - their mistake.

If you live in Ireland (or are from there), you might feel grateful we don’t have tons of money or billionaires with their thumb on the scales fucking up our elections...yet.

Anyway
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESQLocEXUAIWzWe?format=jpg&name=large

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:34 (six years ago)

Elizabeth Warren lost her home state, but she won her home town handily. pic.twitter.com/y3s03rLYAg

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) March 4, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:44 (six years ago)

5.9% is the Harvard business school faculty, I assume

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 09:45 (six years ago)

What do we think of Biden's chances in November?

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:33 (six years ago)

Nonexistent.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:35 (six years ago)

I think all or nearly all polls shows him winning. By a wider margin than Sanders.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:36 (six years ago)

Actually, revising that slightly from “nonexistent” to “marginal” depending on how the epidemic plays out.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:36 (six years ago)

I think he has a good chance of making it there, he has looked a little more with it recentlly

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:38 (six years ago)

I think he'd have a good chance, barring a mass accelerationist gambit and the hard left all voting Trump to purge the Democrat party and clear the decks for Queen Alexandria

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:39 (six years ago)

As long as he writes down the address I'm sure he'll be fine

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:41 (six years ago)

Trump has incumbent advantage. That’s big, and any Democratic nominee will be facing that. But it’s the stuff that’s specific to Biden that’ll do for him.

- his decline, if that’s what we’re calling it. Seriously, he looks and sounds awful now. How is he going to handle debates or scrutiny?

- months and months of shithousing over Hunter Biden

- is Trump going to call him a groper and lech every day and get away with it? Absolutely.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:41 (six years ago)

Biden has a chance, but I don't see him getting a whole lot more votes than Clinton did in '16. Are there enough enthusiastic Trump voters of '16 disillusioned now all of a sudden? Can't imagine it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:43 (six years ago)

I have read that some of the Bernie Bros are plotting not to vote for him though, some are even going as far as talking about using a new emoji. This may hand the election to Trump and could be something to watch out for

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:43 (six years ago)

RCP has Sanders/Trump and Biden/Trump almost identical but I suspect there will be more Berniebros fulfilling the 2016 narrative of staying home this time if Biden is the nominee and especially if he doesn't get a delegate majority before the convention.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:44 (six years ago)

If Biden can convince the masses that his groping is actually the laying on of hands, proving that he is in fact Jesus Christ, his chances would greatly improve.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:46 (six years ago)

trump is unpopular enough and had such a slight margin of victory that i wouldn't rule out biden but i also absolutely believe he could completely throw the election worse than hillary managed to. he can make trump seem coherent in comparison!

ufo, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:49 (six years ago)

And there’s tons of stuff you can throw at Biden and most of it’s true. Let alone stuff like this.

please do not nominate this guy. pic.twitter.com/EZHQEuJtGo

— Elon Green (@elongreen) March 2, 2020

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:49 (six years ago)

the really dangerous scenario for alienating people is bernie having a delegate lead but being just short of a majority with biden getting the nomination via superdelegates. if biden is ahead anyway or wins outright i think you only lose the same small amount of people who wouldn't have voted for any other dem as last time instead of the more widespread feeling of betrayal and disillusionment you could get with a "superdelegates steal the nomination for biden" narrative.

ufo, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:57 (six years ago)

Which of course will be the wound pressed at every opportunity by Trump.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:58 (six years ago)

I think he'd have a good chance, barring a mass accelerationist gambit and the hard left all voting Trump to purge the Democrat party and clear the decks for Queen Alexandria

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

You outdo yourself talking crap everytime you post, how do you do it?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:04 (six years ago)

That was my own cheeky way of suggesting that Bernie's crew might in part abstain. I'm not casting judgement either way

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:06 (six years ago)

oi

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:09 (six years ago)

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:10 (six years ago)

I feel like all the wailing about "the establishment" overlooks the fact that millions of actual real-people voters cast ballots in these races. It's easier to say "fuck the establishment" than "fuck all those regular people who happen to disagree with me," I guess.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:27 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

How about “fuck trump”

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:31 AM (four hours ago)

Best exchange. Did y'all see the African American voting numbers? They're stunning. They came out.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:10 (six years ago)

If he'd run in '16, Biden probably would've taken it. Now, outlook uncertain.

Lake Meat (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:12 (six years ago)

It was always uncertain.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:13 (six years ago)

In many ways it won't matter who wins. No action on the things that matter, but at least if Trump loses he will be going back to his noisy twitter account, backing Ivanka's run in 2024.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:16 (six years ago)

Ivanka vs AOC 2028

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:18 (six years ago)

It's not over yet, Sanders is looking good in the races next tuesday. Michigan is an especially good state for him. There's time for yet another comeback.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:21 (six years ago)

WOW! Sleepy Joe doesn’t know where he is, or what he’s doing. Honestly, I don’t think he even knows what office he's running for! pic.twitter.com/454v9GFpgF

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:26 (six years ago)

The young didn't show up.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:26 (six years ago)

The young go to festivals and stream music; they'll get the t-shirt but don't actually buy a cd or zip-file of mp3s.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:32 (six years ago)

It straight-up doesn't matter that Trump's brain is a molten ruin, his attacks on Biden's mental fitness will stick simply because he's a loud asshole.

Lake Meat (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:42 (six years ago)

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions, here we are again with predictions.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:44 (six years ago)

Get Joe some of the same dexies Trump uses, make it a fair fight.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:45 (six years ago)

In many ways it won't matter who wins. No action on the things that matter, but at least if Trump loses he will be going back to his noisy twitter account, backing Ivanka's run in 2024.


fuck off back to your own boring thread

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:49 (six years ago)

After last night made deviled ham out of most of our predictions

Didn't predictions change to reflect the droppout of Pete and Amy though? And the margin of SC?

anvil, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:50 (six years ago)

Topic: does anvil think he’s funny? Just asking questions.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:51 (six years ago)


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