Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

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Shane Goldmacher, in New York 1m ago

Elizabeth Warren's message to supporters: "There are six more primaries just one week away, and we need your help to keep up the momentum."

This is what I was referring to when I said I suspected some behind-the-scenes fuckery. Because seriously: what the fuck. Again, Biden just a couple days ago won his first primary in over 30 years of attempting to become president. He was widely believed to no chance through, what, at least a week ago? And now he's the frontrunner for the democratic nomination by a sizable margin, after winning big in states be barely campaigned in if at all. Seriously. What's happening here.

Pundits being wrong about the future is not evidence of fuckery

America fuckin sucks

Warren's ad blitz, the centrist Voltron forming behind him, old people scared of socialism

People giving the minimum amount of fucks

Online leftist take is now that Warren has handed the election to Trump

Apparently

well I mean the minimum would be zero, as in not showing up. The minimum nonzero amount of fucks, which means “that guy who was almost president before, right, I want him”

Anyway this year I’m definitely getting Germany to give them the citizenship they owe me after making my grandfather stateless in 1941 just in case we get thunderdome next year, fuckin

yeah, this isn't a two person Presidential election where someone is forecasted to lose Reagan-Mondale style and puts together a hilarious Bad News Bears run to somehow surge in the polls. it was a guy who was in a congested playing field who was slipping when votes were getting divvied up amongst several centrist candidates, and had two unexpected withdrawals prior to Super Tuesday.

I sure as fuck didn't expect his resurgence but this is why I kept telling people prognosticating was difficult when you didn't know who would drop out and when.

remember the Michigan primary in 2016 where not a single poll or aggregator correctly forecasted Sanders's victory? this shit isn't sorcery but it's a wee bit harder to predict than a Presidential election.

Online leftist take is now that Warren has handed the election to Trump

he wasn't almost president, he just stood near the president

xps

it’s basically only my religion keeping me from actively believing we all deserve pain, suffering, and death, so let’s hope that keeps working or I might get banned

I don’t need you to interpret milo’s posts for me, but thanks anyway

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:18 PM bookmarkflaglink

spit take

Take it to the appropriately titled 77 thread

Xp

xps i deserve free meals for life at the pyrtaneum

theyre calling CA already. sanders is leading tx. it's gonna be tight in the delegate count by the time the dust settles.

yang is somehow the best pundit on CNN’s payroll

sanders gets co, ut, vt-- very ski friendly.

he wasn't almost president, he just stood near the president

xps

― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:19 PM bookmarkflaglink

"I was on the cover of Time"

"Well, you were on the corner....the little corner thing, it wasn't .....it wasn't like when the President is on the cover"

As Keynes allegedly said, in the long run we’re all dead, and I have that thought to console me

life is like a banana, it's yellow and it slides

as always, my takeaway: the death drive is real.

— kai a. bosworth (@kaibosworth) March 4, 2020

lol @ warren's "momentum" citation

Maybe my shtick can be becoming a neoreactionary and getting really into N1ck L@nd and Cur71$ Y@rv1n

silby, if you could stand the thought of children, you could also console yourself by believing that if you do everything in your power to protect them and raise them well, they might grow up to be part of a better world than any of us can imagine.

I’m perfectly capable of caring about your children I don’t need my own special ones

Online leftist Bernie take is now that Warren has handed the election to Trump

Can corroborate.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/03/03/robocalls-misinformation-texas-voters-super-tuesday/

Cool cool

silby, if you could stand the thought of children, you could also console yourself by believing that if you do everything in your power to protect them and raise them well, they might grow up to be part of a better world than any of us can imagine.

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:32 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not sure this is the best line of argument when there is another very plausible outcome for the world one's children might inherit

Blaming Warren for anything seems ... well, I mean ... The one woman in the race, the one who's drawing like 10 percent of the vote, when the only state where Sanders outpolled the Biden-Bloomberg combo is his own home state -- where he just barely cleared 50 percent of the vote -- but it's HER fault?

Bloomberg out ahead in Napa county lol

Katherine I have noticed parents tend to be hostile when one suggests their children are likely to have miserable lives on a dying earth

Stats like this don't exactly make the case for the youth vote surge (per the NYT):

Another data point as Texas is tight: The under-30 share of voters is actually smaller than four years ago: 16% this year, 20% in 2016, according to exit polls.

Of course, that's a share of the total, so it's possible turnout is up across the board and just went up more among people over 30.

I'm aware of that, I'm just saying, that is an argument that would not work on me, and I suspect would not work on a lot of people

never, ever, believe in young people. or other people.

jk (sorta)

18 year olds who voted for Obama in their first presidential election are 30 now, all this age-cohort stuff seems increasingly mystifying

apparently Bloomberg did well with black voters in Alabama, Massachusets, and Texas? I don't understand anything.

bloomberg going to "reassess" his campaign tomorrow, likely to drop. have to believe almost all his voters are going to either biden or not voting at all.

oof. this night.

Latino voters under 30 years old in California via @CNN:

Sanders 84% (!!)
Warren 6%
Biden 5%
Everyone else 4%

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 4, 2020

"Bloomberg out ahead in Napa county lol"

my wife and I drove through Piedmont the other day (she works at a school there and was trying to find a shortcut to Orinda that avoids the freeway) and we discovered where all the Bloomberg voters in the Bay Area are.

I'm trying not to be too pissy about Warren, but - the centrists consolidated, the numbers weren't there for her, they haven't been for months, and the party clearly wasn't looking at her as a compromise candidate. I don't know what she gained, or could have logically thought she'd gain, by staying in, taking the superpac money, and going harder after Sanders. The results have not been fair to her in terms of her accomplishments and qualifications, but what was the point?

I really wonder if she'll endorse Sanders when she drops out.

the talk was quite literally brokered convention through like, basically until polls closed today, and the narrative only shifted to "oh wow Biden could get within sniffing distance of getting a delegate majority" once results started rolling in and Biden snuck in a few upsets, and her plan was to wait until the convention and hope to spark a miracle.

if she doesn't drop out after today i have no idea what the fuck she's doing. this isn't even about bernie vs biden i just have no idea what the end goal is. she stated before she was playing for a brokered convention, and i could understand the logic behind that at the time, but the entire establishment (including obama "secretly" wink wink) just coalesced around someone else.

xp

you could also console yourself by believing that if you do everything in your power to protect them and raise them well, they might grow up to be part of a better world than any of us can imagine.

if Biden gets nominated, [katherine otm]

So her goal was to help... ensure a brokered convention?

She was never going to have numbers to play kingmaker once superdelegates are released.