bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

Should probably brace for "This excellent Australia-style Brexit would be a roaring success if not for the Coronavirus!"

Separately, I think I'm surprised that there aren't any MPs with a Livejournal past.

https://newsocialist.org.uk/why-sadiq-khans-call-associate-eu-citizenship-wrong/

But “London is Open” rings rather hollow considering Sadiq Khan’s ambivalent comments about the Londoners scheduled for deportation to Jamaica, or his failure to speak up against facial recognition cameras on London’s streets—another weapon most frequently deployed against Black and minority ethnic communities in the service of the hostile environment.

good short piece piece here that highlights how lame Khan's largely gestural and self-interested 'associate citizenship' scheme is.

NEW: Keir Starmer’s latest donations are in…

£100k from Robert Latham, who appears to be a housing barrister
£5,000 from Richard Hermer
£2,500 from Iain Simpson
£2,700 of hotel stays kind from a firm led by Farah Sassoon, once dubbed ‘Sally Bercow’s drinking pal’

However...

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) March 3, 2020

It's likely there are donations that are *not* on today's list, because Sir Keir has a 28-day window to declare each one to the Commons.

omg the slippery fuck is hiding the donations

so he's got something to be embarrassed about here and it won't come out in the wash until the competition is over.

his huge mailshot operation isn't even accounted for yet

Feels like a waste of money to me, the way things are going he'd win just by sitting there.

might as well start as you intend to continue, by being a slippery fucking lying melt cunt!

Separately, I think I'm surprised that there aren't any MPs with a Livejournal past.

"Jeremy is Nice and So is Keir Apolitical Left"

Owen Hatherley astutely gives a handle to the main body of the Labour membership in 2020.

It's likely there are donations that are *not* on today's list, because Sir Keir has a 28-day window to declare each one to the Commons.
omg the slippery fuck is hiding the donations

so he's got something to be embarrassed about here and it won't come out in the wash until the competition is over.

There are, horrifically, more than 28 days left in in the contest.

hatherley's point is that this was a lot of resurgent labour at all times

(obv not including these threads, no one on these threads has ever been nice)

lol!

xp
it will be very noble of him to let hundreds of thousands of his voters know that he is funded and in the pocket of whichever property developer/oligarch/ex-tory donor when 98% of them have already voted!

But it seems Corbyn held together a shakier coalition than it seemed at the time

I always naively thought succession would be perhaps not the cakewalk Corbyn had against a melt joker like Smith, but it would still be in the bag for a left wing candidate. There is a lesson for me ...on the night I have rage cancelled my Labour direct debit as well!

Welcome back @JolyonMaugham. pic.twitter.com/obdZzbTGDE

— McCats (@PeteMcCats) March 4, 2020

Easily one of the most stupid people in the entire country pic.twitter.com/xoLaGeWKFc

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) March 4, 2020

If Julius tells me it’s sunny, I’m taking my umbrella.

Keep it out of here man, I watched 5 minutes of smug gloating pundits on the Beeb at 4 this morning and I'm getting horrible December flashbacks

Some Alex Sobel to cleanse the thread
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESM-_fHWkAMPfC5?format=jpg&name=large

I can't even enjoy a vicarious proxy victory for the forces of good, fucking tears of blood shooting out of my twitching eye!

they're not going to let you stand as a Democrat Chuka

— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) March 4, 2020

the strangulation of hope is always such a tonic for worthless fucking melts it seems.

2020’s Comeback Kid https://t.co/KORmOQt6UD

— Chuka Umunna (@ChukaUmunna) March 4, 2020

Or abstaining 😉

Wrong thread ffs

This is one of those things you just need to let play out I think, they won't be told. Either Biden and Starmer get roundly trounced and there's finally some self-reflection among these people OR they're proved right in which case fair enough the fascists have been removed from power.

it's that crushing "whats the point anymore?" ennui you get by not having a dog in the race while it slowly plays that kills you.

Either Biden and Starmer get roundly trounced and there's finally some self-reflection among these people

If Biden is trounced it will be because BernieBros stayed home in a fit of pique

Starmer cant be trounced for another 4 years. I can't see him still being leader in 4 years (same goes for the other two)

That's what I said and everyone laughed!

I demand that this house laughs at anvil

and obv a Tory govt not being pressed as hard on austerity as previous LOTO did could also lend a helping hand of death.

Biden gets trounced - ah, should have gone with Warren / Harris / Buttigieg

Starmer gets trounced in local elections - ah, too far to the left, should have gone with Nandy

Self-reflection is all but impossible at this stage.

This is one of those things you just need to let play out I think, they won't be told. Either Biden and Starmer get roundly trounced and there's finally some self-reflection among these people OR they're proved right in which case fair enough the fascists have been removed from power.

"I can't see him still being leader in 4 years"

maybe if they can get him a special voice box that makes him sound like Geoffrey Cox he can avoid getting stabbed in the back by the right!

I think this is the only thing I agree on with Starmer - he won’t last. It seems strange to say because he’s been DPP and a prosecutor and a high-profile shadow frontbencher, but I don’t think he’ll handle being LOTO.

Starmer gets trounced in local elections - ah, too far to the left, should have gone with Nandy

This is putting too much store in whoever the leader is. We went through all this stuff about councils, voter concentration in cities, ageing of towns, brexit etc and now we're back to "we need a person who wears the right tie and speaks a certain way" and a landslide will follow

(*thought tbf speaking in a voice that doesnt sound like an actual muppet might be a start)

I dont see how choosing one candidate over the other really makes all that much difference right now or in 2024

Yeah self-reflection was probably the most optimistic scenario but at least an acknowledgement that the game has changed since the financial crisis. Some of the smarter centrists understand this, most of their outriders clearly don't, cf the "if Blair had stayed on Labour would have won their fifth majority by now" Rentoul crew.

is it only some groups need to self reflect after a trouncing is it

There was plenty of self-reflection itt over the past few months.

That the conclusions might not align with the ones you'd draw is another matter.

self reflection is good

self flagellation, which is what you seem to be implying, can fuck off

oi

― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 11:09 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

dmac's account has been hacked by polly toynbee so many times now I'm starting to think he might be having an affair with her.

gimme a sec to google

fp

fp'd for mental image

don't be so reductive about the idea of a physical loving union between two consenting adults just cos the female is old!

Her being "old" is the least of what's wrong with this particular physical loving union tbf

when did self-reflection become a thing? when the tory party were in the early 00s wilderness was anything worthwhile concluded or did they just benefit from blair leaving and the crash?