Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

last week tonight did a montage this week of all the times he blurghed his sign off.

katherine, you are too hard on yourself.

So is MSNBC still trying to bury Sanders? Y/N

they're trying to bury themselves in a huge cave

Facing a panel that includes Rob Reiner, Chris Hayes has the look of a man who sees a martini over Reiner's shoulder he will never reach.

given that the response to my post was "this thread is a landfill" arguably I am not hard enough on myself

how effusive is Meathead being about -- no, I don't care

starting to think this beto o'rourke character isn't quite as punk rock as he claims.....................

Calves no longer cramping...

i mean all these characters want futures in the democratic party, support in whatever they run for next, cushy DNC chair jobs or whatever, down the line they need "endorsed establishment champ Joe Biden" on their resumes. not exactly inspirational but not exactly surprising either.

I'm trying to imagine what compliments on a woman's appearance would have been acceptable 30-40 years ago but would necessitate a resignation now.

"frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. Nice ass though."

i feel like throwing a Chris Mathews resignation party

xpost the landfill post I think was about the entire thread today and not your post. we all take part in filling the landfill.

I'm printing out the entire thread right now just so that I can throw it away.

to play a golden oldie: fuck Obama

So Obama, Biden & Pete spoke last night and Obama told Pete he had leverage in "creating a more formidable centrist challenge" to @BernieSanders.

Yeesh.https://t.co/GM8xnZHcma pic.twitter.com/d7keUKHrrA

— jordan (@JordanUhl) March 2, 2020

Matthews (rightfully) said it was never ok!

fwiw this was the article that may have prompted this

https://www.gq.com/story/chris-matthews-experience

surprised matthews was minimally gracious, but fine. would've predicted that beto would not line up for biden now, because fuck that shit.

I'm printing out the entire thread right now just so that I can throw it away.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, March 2, 2020 6:54 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's when i burn them, and fantasize it causes pain. even to me.

not going to quote what Matthews was on record saying because it’s irrelevant and honestly, women read and hear that bullshit enough

that's right, keep talking about some cable nobody instead of the shame above

that's not a very direct quote

also nobody here thinks that Obama is not a centre-right pillar of the DNC. it would be cool if he came out for Warren or Sanders ("yes we can!"), but it's no surprise that he doesn't.

that's right, keep talking about some cable nobody instead of the shame above

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius)

Because you're being as monotonous and one-dimensional as ever on these matters? Obama's judges are about the only federal resistance he's getting.

The important Chuck Tingle endorsement has arrived.

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wait, the DNC has no special power! I read that today

you become president and you get hammered toward the center/status quo as soon as you start caring about the existing critical undercurrent in meetings, committees, etc

i'm consistent dude, like Bernie xxxp

obv if I had a blog i'd go for a more punditty vibe

Obama didn't seem to get hammered toward the center, he was always there.

maybe realizing Brother Joe will get slaughtered in November might spare us 4 more years of Trump judges

ask Rev Wright

what does Reverend Wright have to say about Joe Biden in 2020? I forget.

So is MSNBC still trying to bury Sanders? Y/N

Folks, lads, lasses, and those beyond the binary:

The. Story. Needs. To. Change.

The narrative needs churn. If Sanders is down, his sudden surge will be the story. If he's up, his downfall is the story. If Biden is inevitable, his unexpectedly dismal showing is the story. When he's written off, his comeback is the story. If Pete is unheard of, his sudden rise to prominence is the story. When he outperforms expectations, his fizzle will be the story.

Lather, rinse, repeat, forever.

I went to journalism school. My grandfather owned a newspaper. When people think of "media bias" they almost always get it wrong: there is bias, but it is rarely for any particular outcome. The bias is toward a changing story.

this is why I'm sick of the valorization of journalism and of calls to subscribe to my local paper (owned by right-wing dipshits). The whole enterprise is self-deceptive!

The purpose of the news is to make you lose your mind and yet it's all "democracy dies in darkness"

https://i.imgur.com/QHAcYcD.jpg

bernie getting elected would bring me some satisfaction. but bernie not getting elected would bring me a real but grim smile. and bernie not getting nommed would bring me real, schadenfreude-y lols.

this fall is gonna be so rad.

silby you always equate “journalism” with corporate news as if that’s the only way

this is why I'm sick of the valorization of journalism

Yeah in this regard I agree with silby. I got abruptly sick of the valorization of journalism and shifted my work life elsewhere. It can be a fun job but it's not a priesthood; those who treat it as a sacred calling are, with a few exceptions, deluded.

I remember seeing "All the President's Men" and "Inherit the Wind" and "His Girl Friday" as a kid and thinking journalism looked glamorous and noble, while also being a little roguish and rakish.

You wear hats, you speak truth to power, you bring corruption to light, and you take down evildoers. While drinking basically all the time! Seemed like a great lifestyle.

it's a job.

My first disappointment on entering a professional newsroom was realizing no man dressed like Rosalind Russell.

that would be two jobs.

silby you always equate “journalism” with corporate news as if that’s the only way

Local news is excellent at getting my mom to text me every time there's a crime within 10 miles of her house.

“Crime is fine” is my message to the local news watchers of America

Gonna run for mayor on a “crime is fine” platform

i am nearing the end of the ps4 spiderman game and am kind of annoyed at the way they portray cconvicted riminals that broke out of jail overtaking the city!

Ok but re: "crime is fine": Yeah there are a lot of crimes that are totally harmless. And a bunch more that are actively fun.

Even the crimes that aren't exactly fine? well... most of them are VASTLY less bad than the gigantic systemic injustices that keep the downtrodden where they are.

But I digress. Rosalind Russell looked simply smashing in a pinstripe suit and Cary Grant's offhand phone manner should serve as a model to all of us, not matter our walk of life.

Don't get me started on Robert Redford wearing a bad 70s necktie.

Obama didn't seem to get hammered toward the center, he was always there.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, March 2, 2020 9:12 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

are you sure there isn't a chuck tingle book about this

individually mandate THIS

no shit, a city? what a paucity of ambition.