Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

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"Also not sure what the basis for regarding her as acceptable and appealing to the broadest coalition of Dem voters when she is clearly not acceptable and appealing enough to get their votes" She's almost everyone's second choice, just not everyone's first.

I havne't filled in my ballot yet and was going to vote for her in CA since I assume Bernie is going to win CA in a landslide; but now even people locally are urging everyone to vote Sanders and not her to avoid this convention thing. Maybe I'm naive but IMO if it comes to a brokered convention between Warren and Sanders, that should be a win/win. That said I guess everyone is a fucking whiny bitch who will throw a fit if it's not their candidate.

akm, Monday, 2 March 2020 17:24 (six years ago)

It wouldn’t be a brokered convention between Warren and Sanders, though.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:26 (six years ago)

a simp is a person lacking common sense. Is this ableist now or something?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:27 (six years ago)

ffs, this thread.

Yerac, Monday, 2 March 2020 17:31 (six years ago)

The 'second choice' section here doesn't support the idea that Warren is almost everyone's second choice, except for Sanders voters: https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

Are there other polls showing this?

Sund4r, Monday, 2 March 2020 17:32 (six years ago)

Warren has no constituency here

in MN my professional-management-class friends my gen and older are quite sold on her, in a way that seems to replicate the common observation about academic voters, that the tenured go for warren, the adjuncts go for bernie (not just an age thing, as jaymc says, but a class thing). but these are people for whom it would basically be too normie to boost klobuchar as the hometown centrist, so it's hard to say how much of a showing warren will have against that expected effect on the outcome. i think warren is not having much of an actual impact here outside the hopes of those fans. sanders beat clinton pretty decisively here but iirc that was perceived to have something to do—aside from an affirmation of sanders' politics and the winnability of caucuses—with the mysterious combination of clintonian baggage and midwestern reluctance to put a woman in leadership, i.e. maybe idiosyncratic to HRC, maybe not.

j., Monday, 2 March 2020 17:36 (six years ago)

a simp is a person lacking common sense. Is this ableist now or something?

It’s a memeword

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:40 (six years ago)

Aside from real political concerns, the best reason to nominate Bernie is to test centrists commitment to the bit.

I feel like that commitment is not even slightly in doubt, and that fact is indeed the core of Sanders's electability case.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:43 (six years ago)

xp I don't know "simp" this way, it seems sort of antiquated if anything, like a dig you'd make in the 50s

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:44 (six years ago)

“Simp” has been blowing up on the webs this year which is why Simon H had it ready to hand

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:45 (six years ago)

xxp - me too... mostly. We should find out!

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:47 (six years ago)

The best reason to nominate Sanders is to beat Donald Trump.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:48 (six years ago)

I mean, no one in the Democratic party is casting a primary/caucus vote for the candidate they most want to see lose to Trump

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:50 (six years ago)

I thought we decided itt that there’s no such thing as being in the Democratic party

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:51 (six years ago)

Now you're getting it!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:52 (six years ago)

Tulsi voters might be cool with getting to look at her for 8 months then lose to Trump.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:53 (six years ago)

Yes, but "sticking it to centrists" is not on my list of priorities xpost to DJP

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:53 (six years ago)

Well no, because you aren't white

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:54 (six years ago)

the "parasocial relationship projection" Discourse is starting to really bug me, because it doesn't acknowledge that "bernie sanders would totally rhapsodize about paris is burning, or have heard of it at all," while funny, is also an example of parasocial projection by the definition put forth by The Discourse

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:56 (six years ago)

what?

akm, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:08 (six years ago)

I don't know. They had to perform as "Public Enemy Radio" when they were w/o Flav

didn't have to: it's a seperate entity without the live band or Flav, so Chuck and DJ Lord could play benefits more economically

It’s a memeword

this is erasure of your city's biggest rap song tbf

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:17 (six years ago)

sic I don’t know any rap songs

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:18 (six years ago)

it's hard out here for a simp

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:20 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEXCexsfB_o

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:21 (six years ago)

Oh, be something you love and understand
Baby be a simp kind of man

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:22 (six years ago)

I got a letter from the government the other day, it said they were simps

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:23 (six years ago)

that squirrel in my pants video is genuinely fucked up in multiple ways
not the least of which is the Disney cartoon depicting an adolescent girl whose genitals and anus are being ravaged by squirrels

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:26 (six years ago)

so they're branching out into ASMR?

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:27 (six years ago)

Anal Squirrel Mauling Response

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:29 (six years ago)

xpost katherine, akm. I think I said once awhile ago that I can't imagine having this kind of emotional/active investment in someone (in this case Bernie) unless they are paying me or I am having sex with them. It's weird but I also don't follow teams or engage in fandoms.

Yerac, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:30 (six years ago)

sic I don’t know any rap songs

omg you're such a Becky

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:31 (six years ago)

Klobuchar out

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:34 (six years ago)

BREAKING: Amy Klobuchar is ending her Democratic presidential campaign, plans to endorse Joe Biden. https://t.co/omRIv4O3nP

— The Associated Press (@AP) March 2, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:34 (six years ago)

Put in my primary vote for Warren today. I mean a lot of good that’ll do in this go around but had to stick with my first choice.

omar little, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:35 (six years ago)

everybody duck!!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:35 (six years ago)

And the sounds of wailing and rending of garments were heard from the Meet The Press studio...

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:36 (six years ago)

In the three minutes of "Morning" Joe I could stand, he urged her to drop out, so it's not unexpected.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:36 (six years ago)

I admit I am kind of cracking up that black voters in a state we already know won't be won by Democrats have now successfully bounced three moderates from the competition solely by saying "none of you motherfuckers are Joe Biden"

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:38 (six years ago)

A singing acquaintance yesterday was posting mournfully on Facebook about how he never got a chance to cast a vote for Buttigieg and my main reaction was "you were that hype for your mans all over Facebook for months and you couldn't even be bothered to vote early?"

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:39 (six years ago)

the "parasocial relationship projection" Discourse is starting to really bug me, because it doesn't acknowledge that "bernie sanders would totally rhapsodize about paris is burning, or have heard of it at all," while funny, is also an example of parasocial projection by the definition put forth by The Discourse


Are you also talking about the people tweeting strange stuff like “Bernie is my ex who left the toilet seat up and never asked me a question”? Because if so, I agree. And this phenomenon exists in the UK as well (though there’s thankfully never been anything as pure cringe as calf cramps4 Beto).

median punt (gyac), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:39 (six years ago)

calf_cramp.png

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:40 (six years ago)

xp: I'm sorry, as what

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:41 (six years ago)

There's a compare the candidates meme with Bernie and Petey and their reactions to "Paris Is Burning."

You have to search for it, though, so it really might be an issue of timeline curation.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:41 (six years ago)

This whole package on politics-as-fandom was pretty good:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/11/arts/how-fan-culture-is-swallowing-democracy.html

jaymc, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:42 (six years ago)

xp The horny Beto tweet is so much better than all that has come since.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:42 (six years ago)

Ojeda and Avenatti as candidates are like the guy who thinks good sex is pumping away while you’re making a grocery list in your head wondering when he’ll be done.

O’Rourke is like the guy who is all sweet and nerdy but holds you down and makes you cum until your calves cramp.

— Leah McElrath 🏳️‍🌈 (@leahmcelrath) November 12, 2018

omar little, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:43 (six years ago)

uh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:44 (six years ago)

The safest thing is probably just to think of the nomination as a toss-up between Sanders and Biden now.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 2, 2020

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:44 (six years ago)

I'm not sure if our model will say that, but **it's getting pretty close to saying that** and the factors it isn't considering (i.e. that Biden could pick up a disproportionate share of Klobuchar and Buttigieg voters) would likely push it in that direction.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 2, 2020

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:45 (six years ago)

someday I will realize that when these questions come into my brain, I don't actually want to ask them

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:45 (six years ago)


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