bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

seeing as one of the key central tenets of UK conservatism is supposed to be home ownership. It seems a hell of a lot of new homeowners have been very shoddily served by this government's policies and even their maligned by the left help to buy scheme has fucked loads of ppl over. This is mainly going by being a regular hate listener to You and Yours which is sort of part radio mumsnet, part eye into the dark heart of middle england.

Yeah you'd think leaseholders in particular would be exactly the people the Tories need to keep happy but if they weren't arsed before the election then they absolutely won't be now that there is zero electoral pressure on them.

If anything I think people who have bought in badly-cladded private developments are in a worse position than those in former council properties - council freeholders or housing associations can at least in theory be shamed into trying to do something even if they don't have the money, developers absolutely won't be.

Some of these people in newly unsellable deathtrap apartments will be going through relationship or marital breakdowns either caused or exacerbated by the stress of all this, with nowhere to go due to the gigantic bills hanging over their heads.

There was a rumour circulating prior to the pregnancy announcement that Johnson’s extended holiday from the public view was down to Carrie socking him in the face for cheating while she was pregnant.

It is tough to argue that a lot of public money should be spent on bailing out people who have bought propery unwisely but idk what else can happen unless they’re willing to run the risk of a massive housing market collapse and negative equity.

Saying it's down to a lack of wisdom seems harsh. What feedback would they have gotten back even from a thorough survey? The fault lies primarily with developers imo

Yeah this should really be laid at the door of the developers but short of a successful class action lawsuit I don't know what can be done.

LOL at the idea that the Tories actually care about the ghastly little plebs who've crawled on to the property ladder once their votes are in the bag.

I was going to say, “unwisely” is a bit harsh, it’s not the fault of buyers that property is overpriced, people are desperate and should be judged accordingly.

I wonder what proportion of these buildings are in metropolitan areas and student towns who stubbornly persist in voting Labour anyway...

I still can't get over his voice, he sounds like a bona fide muppet. Its definitely not a practical joke?

I didn't have anyting against him before but this is completely untenable if true

seriously

i mean i had stuff against him sure sure but he can't be expected to speak like that in public

he sounds like he's talking with a boiled sweet in his mouth

I can't imagine the Tories care too much about the individual homeowners but it's generally a good idea to look out for the lowest layer in a house of cards.

I find it difficult to believe Starmer could have been one of the country's top barristers with listless honking performances so i guess he's keeping something in the tank.

He just sounds tired at the moment, idk why.

motion that until he stands down every time we get up at a CLP meeting to speak our brains we should do it in our best starmer voice

Tired and unemotional.

There are people who are uncomfortable speaking in public due to a pronounced starmer.

He just sounds tired at the moment, idk why.

in which Peston suddenly realises that the country is shit and fucked

A huge under-discussed problem relating to the Covid19 potential crisis is how to give confidence to those on low pay, especially the significant numbers on zero hours contracts in retail and hospitality, that if they self-quarantine they won’t suffer extreme hardship. I...

— Robert Peston (@Peston) March 2, 2020

*additional* extreme hardship. At least he was all over zero hours contracts during election '19 and hasn't just suddenly caught himself accidentally thinking aloud that they are fucking terrible.

lol, the only reason he cares is that they obviously won’t self-quarantine. The hardship isn’t the problem, it’s the risk that he’ll get sick.

Horrified at the prospect of middle class people bring infected by the local peasantry.

i can assure Mr Pesto that if you go on the sick in UK 2020 then the hardship is super extreme

dick

glad it's taken 40 people catching a cold to bring this fact into the light of day tho

lol we're all gonna &c &c

Coronavirus: just eight out of 1,600 doctors in poll say NHS is ready https://t.co/4PRq2rOeUl

— Guardian news (@guardiannews) March 2, 2020

On the upside if we do get hundreds of thousands of deaths the electoral impact will probably be favourable, time for a second peasants revolt mb

Most of the victims have been the over 65s and people who go to ski resorts so afaict it disproportionately affects Tories.

also those weird-looking cruise ships they advertise during murder she wrote

Good job all the other adverts are about life insurance then.

And funeral plans!

and Gibraltese £5 coins with war pictures

i've been thinking about discussing the river cruise adverts for a while, there's something beautifully tacky about how much they emphasize how classy they are

it's cool that, on one side of the atlantic, we've got a free healthcare system which is poised to collapse if coronavirus really ramps up and, on the other side of the atlantic, an expensive and exclusionary healthcare system which is poised to fail because people can't afford to get tested or treated if coronavirus really ramps up

those fucking river cruise ads are awful - 'come and see some of the world's most beautiful vistas on a floating disease vector with a catastrophic carbon footbprint, surrounded by awful cunts just like you'

i kinda fancy one of those holidays

Populations on both sides of the Atlantic poised to collapse no matter the funding methods used for healthcare.

(xp) I saw one today and thought it looked pretty cool.

the relevant movie's tagline now also applies to all non-cruise scenarios: "hell, upside down"

A floating bar cruising through the Caribbean sounds good to me, you wouldn't catch me getting on a plane so it's probably an option I'd take if I actually had any fucking options!

Could see myself foating down the Rhine gawping at the occasional Schloss.

... foating = floating + boating

Get Sloshed At A Schloss - possible strapline for one of these cruises.

Sadly, everyone who has ever gone on a cruise will be pushed into the pit, starting with belle&sebastian.

Yeah this should really be laid at the door of the developers but short of a successful class action lawsuit I don't know what can be done.

On the upside if we do get hundreds of thousands of deaths the electoral impact will probably be favourable, time for a second peasants revolt mb

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when adam delved and eve treadled, who then was the superspreader

i kinda fancy one of those holidays

I don't even like boats but when we steal the local pub's Torygraph to do the big weekend general knowledge crosswords there are usually ads opposite for central European river cruises which always set me daydreaming of having thousands of pounds to spare for one, even though how good can it really be to be trapped on a boat full of Telegraph readers (eek) and have hurried route marches round like 3 cities which I could probably see individually in a more leisurely fashion for a tenth of the price

> Most of the victims have been the over 65s

did you hear about the plan to bring doctors *out of retirement* to help?

Maybe, if the laws on assisted dying are relaxed, these companies can offer "death cruises" (they'd call them something different I guess), where participants get a glorious river tour of European capitals, ending with a visit to the Dignitas clinic.

In the old days we called them “coffin ships”