bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

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yep like mayor no we Kahn't of London another fucking waste of space.

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 12:45 (six years ago)

I might even have had a modicum of respect if he just said I prefer the senile centrist or the billionaire myself

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 12:50 (six years ago)

i forgot to add "gropey" to senile centrist

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 12:50 (six years ago)

emphatic Bernie yes! from RLB, the usual slippery lawyering prevarication from slimeball Starmer and the standard hot drivel from Nandy!

I've never heard Starmer speak before. Thats his real voice? Surely not

anvil, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:00 (six years ago)

Wow you should check out his stand up routine

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:05 (six years ago)

Wait no....I heard that but I thought it was dubbed. the 'cant say you're english' thing?

anvil, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:09 (six years ago)

Starmer Starmer Starmer Starmer Starmer comedian pic.twitter.com/6PAQYecWFz

— TheIainDuncanSmiths (@TheIDSmiths) February 16, 2020

this performance by him is real, the humour account does it out of sync as a JOKE!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:10 (six years ago)

I'm really confused now, I've no idea whats going on but I do know that this is a more than unpleasant end to the weekend

anvil, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:13 (six years ago)

It's a more than unpleasant end to my 4 year association with the labour party as well unfortunately. I'm thinking of starting a new communist party in Nandos next month!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:17 (six years ago)

well launching it in nandos and then doing a runner without paying the bill

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:19 (six years ago)

To each according to his Nands

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:29 (six years ago)

Starmer's sort of tacit backing for any more respectable billionaire than Trump, just not that Sanders fellow is totally at odds with the bullshit he's been projecting to the membership in his videos and comedy sets.

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:44 (six years ago)

At last some common sense from the primaries. pic.twitter.com/Wbwfbmfds0

— Luke Akehurst (@lukeakehurst) March 1, 2020

his Labour First pal Luke Akehurst knows the score

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:53 (six years ago)

I would like to ironically say in a totally non actionable sense that I hope Luke Akehurst gets beaten to death with a morning star very soon

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 22:01 (six years ago)

a Labour party just slightly to the left of Miliband 2015 but with a weak as piss melt leader who is more predisposed to pressure to make compromised "difficult decisions" on policy and duty-bound to the right wing pressure groups and dodgy Blairite donors that have financed his expensive campaign. Coming from *this* from Corbynism just makes me want to top myself tbh.

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 22:46 (six years ago)

he is probably just a temporary usefule idiot for the right wing of the party, but the membership and CLP's who have all fallen for this sham by voting for him en masse all deserve to die imo

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 22:51 (six years ago)

goddamn this is some brazil shit right here.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/01/subpostmaster-pete-murray-says-post-office-demands-to-repay-stolen-65000-led-to-stroke

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 March 2020 22:55 (six years ago)

The battle for Starmer's "soul" might be interesting. The right won't be able to put the squeeze on him too obviously because the membership will rally round him and it might strengthen his resolve to stay left-ish. On the other hand there's plenty of time and room for weaseling on policy and entrenching the existing party bureaucracy. I really don't think the shift right will be immediate, drastic or obvious.

Fiver says the standard media attack line will be "look at this boring fucking nerd" within a week of his election. None of the scum have to make nice with him, the Tories are so entrenched.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:01 (six years ago)

xp
once when I was a skint junkie and trying to cash in some penny bags from my coin bottle in the early 90's this miserable subpostmaster knocked me back and said "fuck off, we keep getting our fingers burned on these penny bags that are short". I put a curse on him at that moment, it just took a few decades!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:03 (six years ago)

Thought them scales were accurate to the penny

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:05 (six years ago)

He was trying to say there were foreign or old coins being used as ballast, and fuck you junkie scratter!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:11 (six years ago)

I only had something like 17 bags ffs!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:16 (six years ago)

I wonder how well “boring nerd” might play to a post-Brexit electorate sick to death of new bridges and babies and policy wheezes like “let them die of Coronavirus”

stet, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:17 (six years ago)

Starmer needs to ditch his wife and get some blonde up the duff.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:20 (six years ago)

"the membership will rally round him and it might strengthen his resolve to stay left-ish"

I just see this slow game happening here where he largely bovine the membership melt even more and lots of left members sulk off. It won't be the same dynamic as when Corbyn was leader.

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:21 (six years ago)

*the bovine nominally left membership* i meant to say

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:23 (six years ago)

the "Corbynites" who previously got served an ice-cream by Owen Smith, laughed at his dick-jokes and turned up at his bbq are basically the majority of the membership right now imo.

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:27 (six years ago)

Corbyn is a "boring nerd" tbf, but a quite vibrant public speaker who could attract good crowds on the campaign trail. I'd be very surprised if Starmer could follow that act tbh. He's already alienated the scousers by saying he wouldn't speak to the Sun and then said otherwise to the Fabians the next fucking day!

calzino, Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:41 (six years ago)

I wonder how well “boring nerd” might play to a post-Brexit electorate sick to death of new bridges and babies and policy wheezes like “let them die of Coronavirus”

Feel like we always end up falling into the trap of thinking like this and it never actually happens. 'Reliable, reassuring and quietly good at his job' is probably the best thing he can realistically go for.

And he'll need to do so quietly because that voice thing is not going to go away.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:04 (six years ago)

At the moment the government are making the (probably correct) calculation that the British public are sick to death of politics and actually quite pleased not to have to see the PM on TV every five minutes. Coronavirus will change that though.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:16 (six years ago)

Everyone seems to have mentioned the voice now, so it isn't just me being incredibly harsh on every facet of Starmer. I could just imagine those Tory FB ads clowning him, it would be cruel but probably very effective.

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:18 (six years ago)

36 cases in the UK now, you can see why it's public health crisis number 1

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 March 2020 09:18 (six years ago)

yeah sorry i meant Starmer not CB-4

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 March 2020 09:19 (six years ago)

time to get the old double cartridge respirator out, Luke Akehurst is at my front door!

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:27 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/02/social-landlords-face-10bn-bill-to-fix-fire-safety-problems

housing associations fucked, anyone in need of a new house fucked, lots of ppl who own flats absolutely fucked. morning!

ogmor, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:39 (six years ago)

I was listening to some of these tenants in shared ownwership mortgages breaking down on You and Yours. The catch 22 is some of them would need to re-mortgage to find the ÂŁ30 -40 grand they need. They can't re-mortgage because the cladding means the property is worth zero.

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 09:52 (six years ago)

Never mind all that misery guts, Carrie's having baby.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 2 March 2020 09:54 (six years ago)

I'm so happy for them I would love to donate a playhouse made out of high flammability wooden cladding and an early learning centre set of My First Firesticks.

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:04 (six years ago)

Had to google. Thought she'd dumped him.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 March 2020 10:15 (six years ago)

it sounds like she's going to be having a dump

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:19 (six years ago)

seeing as one of the key central tenets of UK conservatism is supposed to be home ownership. It seems a hell of a lot of new homeowners have been very shoddily served by this government's policies and even their maligned by the left help to buy scheme has fucked loads of ppl over. This is mainly going by being a regular hate listener to You and Yours which is sort of part radio mumsnet, part eye into the dark heart of middle england.

calzino, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:41 (six years ago)

Yeah you'd think leaseholders in particular would be exactly the people the Tories need to keep happy but if they weren't arsed before the election then they absolutely won't be now that there is zero electoral pressure on them.

If anything I think people who have bought in badly-cladded private developments are in a worse position than those in former council properties - council freeholders or housing associations can at least in theory be shamed into trying to do something even if they don't have the money, developers absolutely won't be.

Some of these people in newly unsellable deathtrap apartments will be going through relationship or marital breakdowns either caused or exacerbated by the stress of all this, with nowhere to go due to the gigantic bills hanging over their heads.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:47 (six years ago)

There was a rumour circulating prior to the pregnancy announcement that Johnson’s extended holiday from the public view was down to Carrie socking him in the face for cheating while she was pregnant.

It is tough to argue that a lot of public money should be spent on bailing out people who have bought propery unwisely but idk what else can happen unless they’re willing to run the risk of a massive housing market collapse and negative equity.

ShariVari, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:51 (six years ago)

Saying it's down to a lack of wisdom seems harsh. What feedback would they have gotten back even from a thorough survey? The fault lies primarily with developers imo

ogmor, Monday, 2 March 2020 10:58 (six years ago)

Yeah this should really be laid at the door of the developers but short of a successful class action lawsuit I don't know what can be done.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 March 2020 11:03 (six years ago)

LOL at the idea that the Tories actually care about the ghastly little plebs who've crawled on to the property ladder once their votes are in the bag.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 2 March 2020 11:49 (six years ago)

I was going to say, “unwisely” is a bit harsh, it’s not the fault of buyers that property is overpriced, people are desperate and should be judged accordingly.

median punt (gyac), Monday, 2 March 2020 12:01 (six years ago)

I wonder what proportion of these buildings are in metropolitan areas and student towns who stubbornly persist in voting Labour anyway...

Matt DC, Monday, 2 March 2020 12:04 (six years ago)

I still can't get over his voice, he sounds like a bona fide muppet. Its definitely not a practical joke?

anvil, Monday, 2 March 2020 12:10 (six years ago)

I didn't have anyting against him before but this is completely untenable if true

anvil, Monday, 2 March 2020 12:11 (six years ago)


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