Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Is it? With the exception of 1984, 10 states have decided the presidency in my lifetime. Why not bring attention to this absurdity?

I have a feeling this will dwindle down to Sanders vs Biden with everyone else dropping out within a month. But I don't know what the primary schedule is after this week.

Why not abolish the electoral college you dingus

while bloomberg doesn’t appear to have much of a plan after super tuesday, he doesn’t have the whole “ran outta money” problem that others will have.

iow mikes not dropping out this early after all the money he’s spending...probably

why is everyone surprised joe biden won in a state he has been nigh-guaranteed to win since he announced he was running

I'd love to abolish the electoral college. But no Republican state will sign onto the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. The ridiculous Senate, where by 2040 a third of Americans will control 70% of the Senate, is worse.

So, we pretend SC matters. We pretend CA matters. Why not stop pretending?

also I see joe biden is following bloomberg's strategy of attempting to make memes (sorry if this has been posted)

post south carolina update: joementum has intensified https://t.co/j5NejeOT9A pic.twitter.com/wVdAcruNci

— Team Joe (Text JOE to 30330) (@TeamJoe) March 1, 2020

does he really want to bring back a term associated with Lieberman?

he wants to repeatedly lower bar in the dingy gym of sisyphus

Not so fast.

Mr. Biden is counting on a win in the South Carolina primary on Saturday to help position him as the leading moderate challenger to Mr. Sanders, after three straight losses shredded Mr. Biden’s status as the onetime front-runner. But even if he succeeds in South Carolina, his lack of resources and thin campaign organization in California and other states that vote next week on Super Tuesday present a daunting challenge to a candidacy already on precarious footing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/joe-biden-california-super-tuesday.html

The Narrative is not convinced

Respectable showing for Bernard imo

On the other hand, if voters in Super Tuesday states interpret the SC results as a sign that Biden is the only moderate who can conceivably win, then that may make up for a lack of ground game. On the other other hand, lots of people have already voted.

Everyone expected Biden to win but I think the margin is definitely on the very high end of his projections. Data for progress has been one of the most accurate pollsters so far and they had Biden only winning by 9. I don’t think tonight is reason to panic either though. Bloomberg dropping out would worry me a lot more but I think he holds on at least through Florida

MSNBC panel broadcasting from ... a fucking diner.

how folksy!

"down home"

yall dont do this.

Vote for Biden? Check.

does he really want to bring back a term associated with Lieberman?

Guy was a friend of Strom Thurmond so I think he's fine with it.

I'd be content with a primary system in which only states that were within 5% on the last general had a say. It would be more economic and strategic.

― Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:19 PM bookmarkflaglink

that is a ridiculous idea

― mh, Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:20 PM bookmarkflaglink

so, an average Sanpaku take

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:23 PM bookmarkflaglink

Can practically hear Harry Caray yelling strike 3.

Dafuq Sanpaku.

You're still not getting the point.

10 states matter. That's wrong.

So how does a national political party call attention to that fact?

Y-y-y-your idea?????

i thought 2 of the last 5 presidential elections won by popular vote losers was a pretty good one?

You haven't explained what purpose "calling attention to that fact" would serve xp

Y-y-y-your idea?????

If only 10 states matter in the general, focus.

I think assuming the swing states that apparently decide elections aren't influenced by other states, or that voter turnout could get messed up in non-swing states through selections in which they had no part, is erroneous

which states mattered in the 1984 presidential election?

Guys, I seriously doubt that Sanpaku intended his post as a white paper report on the best way to fix the current imbalances in the electoral system, so much as an expression of frustration at same. I'd note that the ilxor who has never posted a badly conceived response in regard to an emotionally charged topic should throw the first stone. iow, maybe Ned should weigh in.

are you familiar with Sanpaku's posts? not really dealing in offhand comments afaict

Back and to the left...

Xpost?

Idk anymore

thought he was pointing out the absurd reality that since most states are red or blue no matter who is running, we let the voters of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania decide the nominee

Eh good morning

Back and to the left...

― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal)

A+

If only 10 states matter in the general, focus.

HRC focused on the ones that matter, and it turned out the ones that don't matter, matter.

I'm glad he ran just so we could see this beautiful moment: https://t.co/yIMQ9ywIhG

— The Handsomest Man in O-Town (@MrFiste11306624) March 1, 2020

godspeed strange fellow

barrrrgghh

this video was doctored and isn’t real i’m hallucinating it pic.twitter.com/TA0LbZi5Oj

— Liv (@LivPosting) February 29, 2020

Dat ass so nice
It embedded twice

Warren’s comments on Bernie Sanders tonight: pic.twitter.com/d7RimfVyei

— Mike Prysner (@MikePrysner) March 1, 2020

that's a yikes from me

Xxpost

Bruh you look dumb
Won't you close that PAC up

It's not an unfair cop, although I don't think Warren's own legislativeSenate record is much more impressive in those terms? (CFPB was pre-Senate iirc, although arguably it might show executive experience at a national level, which could be more relevant to the position, despite her ambitious legislative platform.) The hope would be that electing Sanders to a position of greater power would make it more feasible for him to get things done but there are a lot of unknowns.

I mean, Sanders has got some worthwhile amendments through, e.g. funding for community health centres. Neither of them has that much of a record of implementing things on the scale of a wealth tax, Green New Deal, free tuition, or M4A (via a public option or otherwise), which is what both of them are running on.

how do you build an "impressive legislative record" when most of your party are "centrist" do-nothings who revile your ideology?

"What are you gonna do on Inauguration Day?"

"Watch Liz take the oath of office, of course. You?"

"Same. Then I'll brunch with dear friends as we celebrate President Warren!"

"Say -- are your feet getting wet?" pic.twitter.com/eBWdRAw1bx

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) February 29, 2020

huh?

Yeah, if anything, Sanders mobilizing his base to pressure Congress seems like a slightly more believable plan than Warren getting these things done with idk administrative competence or academic credentials or idk what.xp

xp last night:

I've lived in suburban Texas, very progressive Wisconsin, and suburban Louisiana. Only for 1/7 presidential votes in my adult life have I mattered much. I donate to 5 distant senate races, rather than my own. The US is running on Democracy 2.0, when most of the world is on Democracy 4.0 and above...

Fuck yes! its an expression of frustration.

how do you build an "impressive legislative record" when most of your party are "centrist" do-nothings who revile your ideology?

this question, asked rightly, would tend to make a person ask "so, do I want to vote for the candidate whose platform I like best, or the candidate who will be able to get the centrists, who aren't going anywhere, to pass more progressive legislation than they'd otherwise pass?"

a plan iirc

xp

And she has fewer political skills than we thought.