Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

correct, it’s New Jersey

...and you know it don't come ersey

Kicksturt my urt

well that was quick

NEW: Warren super PAC plunges $9 MILLION into Super Tuesday states.

Warren likely now has the biggest super PAC of the cycle, or at least close to it. pic.twitter.com/TOoIP0GW31

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) February 28, 2020

i know there's tight competition for worst debate of the election but both this and biden's mandela lie going completely unquestioned was ridiculous

Let’s be clear: I won't take a dime of PAC money in this campaign. I won't take a single check from a federal lobbyist, or billionaires who want to run a Super PAC on my behalf.

And I challenge every other candidate who asks for your vote in this primary to do the same.

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) February 9, 2019

it's cool that pledges just don't mean shit

Not gonna troll a couple of friends who decided Bernie's medical records thing made him unfit for office.

Why should pledges mean shit, these people want to be president, they aren’t good

Reversals this brazen tell you some things.

haha just learned that my cousin, whom i met once when i was like eight, is bloomberg's chairman in mass

generally when candidates do bad things they receive some degree of pushback in the media/debates. if bernie started accepting super pac money or was caught lying about his history with nelson mandela it'd dominate the news cycle for a week. both of these things came and went with little comment.

imo warren building her brand as "the other progressive candidate who can't be bought" and then parroting the bullshit dark money line against bernie before turning around to accept more super pac money than anyone else in the race is buttigieg-level slime. it should be a story. and it's not like it's just a bullshit purity test - she's been bought, and if she somehow made it to the white house she'd get there owing a debt to millionaires or billionaires.

this is a failing of the bernie campaign, they've generally resisted going after her directly and they've completely eased up on biden since iowa.

xps

i don't know what she should have done here, but the castigation makes me depressed.

sorry?

she could've... not done the thing she pledged not to do

This is the scene in Blue Chips where Nick Nolte bribes Penny and Shaq

listen -- i love to be clear

yeah wat

are billionaires running her Super PAC?

No way it would was done without deep pockets if it got put together this fast, but it doesn't appear there will be any way to get a breakdown for a while.

This should be disqualifying imo but I understand Bernie campaign laying off at least *for now*—by and large her voters will soon turn to him, and she's not posing a threat that is yet worth inflaming them

I for one find it easy to believe the person who created the CFPB and wrote the book on how bankruptcy fleeces Americans is owned by corporate interests #roseemoji

It's because they love the wealth tax iirc

You don't have to think she's "bought" to think this sucks ass

Nice to see this thread has turned into the “stop stop he’s already dead” meme. Warren is no longer a threat y’all; Bernie cultists, look elsewhere to get your persecution jollies.

Oh, piss off. She may not have a straight path to the nomination but she can certainly pick up a healthy chunk of delegates, which could certainly matter down the line.

indeed if you are bummed Warren is taking PAC money after vowing not to, you have clearly been indoctrinated into a CULT

You have clearly been indoctrinated into a cult if you think this is disqualifying.

We know Our Revolution is willing to receive six-figure anonymous donations, and has. We won't know how much money they're receiving in the election year and how they're spending it until after the election because their structure as a 501(c)(4) allows them to escape the interim reporting requirements that PACs are subject to.

I haven't seen reporting on how much the National Nurses Union super PAC is spending supporting Sanders this time round ($5 million in 2016). Others?

I really hate that Sanders is in the pocket of Big Nurse

haha just learned that my cousin, whom i met once when i was like eight, is bloomberg's chairman in mass

Good money, I bet.

xxp it's another misguided hedge on the principles she campaigned on, if it's not "disqualifying" for you on those grounds that's fine, though as a practical consideration these compromises have not helped her in "qualifying" for many delegates

but cult, yes

are six-figure anonymous donors consistent with Sanders' principles? or hedging?

In response to an Intercept inquiry, Our Revolution provided information on its donors, which is not yet public, saying that in 2019, it only received a total of six donations over $5,000. Last year, the average individual contribution to Our Revolution was $17.73, with 99.99 percent of its donations coming in under $5,000, according to the group.

The six big contributions totaled $78,289.53 last year, or roughly 4 percent of its revenue. The biggest contribution was around $25,000. Our Revolution, from all sources, took in $1.87 million in 2019, and the bulk of that was spent on state and local races or other organizing campaigns separate from the Sanders presidential run.

For comparison, VoteVets alone, a super PAC that supports liberal veterans for public office and is backing Buttigieg, has spent $2.1 million airing ads for the former mayor so far. Our Revolution’s board has to approve any donation over $5,000.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/26/our-revolution-bernie-sanders-donor-contributions/

yes, and any donor giving Our Revolution more than $250 is listed on its website.

A good round-up here:

https://readsludge.com/2020/02/10/fact-check-does-bernie-sanders-get-support-from-big-money-super-pacs/

"listed on its website"

yes, as "anonymous"

The group says it takes transparency seriously and discloses donors on its website, though it does not list how much was given. In some cases, the group omits names altogether, listing them as “anonymous.” The source of a $100,000 check, for example, was blank on the group’s 2017 tax forms. The same goes for a $300,000 donation reported on the group’s 2016 taxes.

“If people are requesting to be anonymous, we have to respect their wishes,”

https://apnews.com/e401e975eb88468a951a347f59d6a5ac

brooks announcing he won't vote - brave

i started down a rabbit hole of trying to parse what he's actually trying to say and just deleted it, life's too short

I stopped here wtf

He believes in revolutionary mass mobilization and, once an election has been won, rule by majoritarian domination.

xxp I'm not sure that's the bolstering article you think it is

It's different years, isn't it? Our Revolution took big anonymous money in 2017 and 18, and didn't in 2019. We don't know what they are doing in 2020.

majoritarian domination

this is the block of live action shows on fox that plays before animation domination, right?

Fringey religious sect from the 1600’s I think

i’m pretty sure “Majoritarian Domination” is an early EP by Friends of Carlotta

Some classic whataboutism going on itt, and not particularly convincing at that

Simon that’s a D- post,

I passed woooooooo

when someone self-declares as a capitalist to their bones, i believe them

cool

*sigh*

SOMEONE FLIP THE RECORD IT's SKIPPING.