Are all your 'ballots' ordered? Mine's alphabetical
Good old Lancelot would be on my longer list, nice choice
― imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
Rewatched Andrei Rublev the other night and it's right up there
Andrei RublevMishimaThe AssassinM or Mabuse the GamblerFor a Few Dollars MoreWeekendThe Big SleepThe Gospel According to St MatthewVertigoKikujiro
I dunno, top of my head, not ordered
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link
Mine was attempted chronological. I only now realized I forgot A Matter of Life and Death. So delete either Boonmee or Amour Fou, I guess. Good thing I still have a couple of years.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link
Jeanne Dielmann should be top ten, more Akerman should enter the top 100
Les Rendez-vous d'Anna svp
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
If I'd put any thought in there'd probably be a P&P in there, Black Narcissus or The Red Shoes
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
News From Home and No Home Movie could as well
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link
Eh, it'll change tomorrow/five minutes from now but fuckit:
Mulholland Drive (Lynch)Tree of Life (Mallick)Hausu (Obayashi)Possession (Zulawski)McCabe and Mrs. Miller (Altman)Phantom of the Paradise (De Palma)Stop Making Sense (Demme)Five Easy Pieces (Rafelson)The Innocents (Clayton)Robot Monster (Tucker)
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
mine was unordered
― devvvine, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link
Mine was unordered too, but yeah - Mishima pretty much top of the pack.
Le Rayon Vert v. close to making mine
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link
I've watched Mishima more than any other film and I will never tire of it
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:24 (four years ago) link
Summer HoursVagabondThe Turin HorseThe Lady EveLos Olvidados Early SummerDead RingersCertified CopyStrangers on a TrainThe Merchant of Four SeasonsPandora's Box
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link
Oh shit I missed out L'Age d'Or and an Ozu to be decided
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
Late Spring?
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link
Rublev and The Assassin are amazing to me in their ability/attempts to recreate the texture of the past, presentation of other worlds without trying to mediate them for modernity. Really love King Hu's Legend of the Mountain for similar reasons. They are transportive in amazing ways.
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
oh what the hell
SunriseTexas Chainsaw MassacreGrave of the FirefliesLes Rendez-vous d'AnnaInland EmpireThe Long GoodbyeStalkerPoint BlankThe Thin Blue LineAudition
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:56 (four years ago) link
this is a ludicrous mind game
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
New board/life description
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
but mind games are fun
― Miami weisse (WmC), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
you gotta let ityou gotta let it go
― imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link
acknowledging that nothing matters makes listing extremely easy
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link
let it go
― imago, 25. februar 2020 15:16 (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Aw fuck, now I have to redo the list again :(
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
2001AguirreBirthClose-upDay of wrathDon't look nowJeanne dielman Love exposureMaborosiLe Rayon vertThe red shoesShadows of forgotten ancestors Vertigo
Sort of...
― or something, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link
Fuck, forgot
To live and die in LA Sorcerer
Morbs! You forgot JFK! Where would it land on your list??
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
The MirrorUgetsuThe Life and Death of Colonel BlimpA Day in the CountrySpirited AwayThe Green RayThe GeneralSmiles of a Summer NightSans SoleilThe End of Evangelion, fuck it
― jmm, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
how disgusting
― devvvine, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
If I remember when I get home tonight and can access my Letterboxd account, I'll try to put together a S(hm)ight & S(hm)ound ballot. Spoiler alert: Footlight Parade and The Music Box will probably top this list.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
An interesting question would be is there anything from more than 9 years ago that you wouldn't / didn't put on then but would now? More so if you've not rewatched it since.
("If I thought it was one of the best 10 films of all time, why would I not have rewatched it in the last decade?" is if course a very fair question)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link
Thing about time is you're always seeing something new, either literally or re-seeing because you're older and your values have changed
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
Probably half of my all time top 10 would be films I only watched once.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
I've never watched many of the greatest movies I've seen.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link
I'm too old to care about what should be on these lists and what shouldn't. Alphabetically:
Advise and Consent (1962)All the President's Men (1976)Lost in America (1985)Mad Men (2007-2015)Malcolm X (1992)Nixon (1995)No Country for Old Men (2007)Rosemary's Baby (1968)Welfare (1975)Zodiac (2007)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
I think one of Jia Zhangke's might be up around my personal list too
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
Last Year At Marienbad (Resnais)Melancholia (Lav Diaz)Mulholland Drive (Lynch)That Obscure Object of Desire (Bunuel)Woman in the Dunes (Teshigahara)Don't Look Now (Roeg)Céline and Julie Go Boating (Rivette)Love in the Afternoon (Rohmer)Taste of Cherry (Kiarostami)Stalker (Tarkovsky)Carnival of Souls (Harvey)The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman)Ugetsu (Mizoguchi)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
here's my absolute dumbass version of a ballot for this
The End of Evangelion (Anno, 1997)Kiki's Delivery Service (Miyazaki, 1989)Possession (Żuławski, 1981)Prince of Darkness (Carpenter, 1987)Sans Soleil (Marker, 1983)Showgirls (Verhoeven, 1995)Speed Racer (Wachowskis, 2008)The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (Hooper, 1974)Three Colors: Red (Kieślowski, 1994)Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (Lynch, 1992)
sorry for almost no movies before 1980
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:35 (four years ago) link
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972)Duck Amuck (Jones, 1953)Fanny and Alexander [TV version] (Bergman, 1982) The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973)The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Ford, 1962)Night of the Hunter (Laughton, 1955)North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)The Shining (Kubrick, 1980)The Shop Around the Corner (Lubitsch, 1940) Touch of Evil (Welles, 1958)
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
LBI we should hang out and do a movie weekend at some point haha
― imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
i can't see how one can just do the sound era choices thing
Orson Welles thought they were the purest cinema
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
One of the on pointiest comments about early Hitchcock I ever read is that he mastered the new technique of introducing sound in a way that mattered I think.
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
(silents, that is) xp
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
Arguing for cinema as purely visual is wrong-headed imo
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
― imago, Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:40 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
A lot of tears and a lot of confusion, see you on Friday! :D
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
well "purely visual" is a subjective term
ie there was always music w/ silents
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
"You brought the wrong Melancholia, dammit!"
― imago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link
Haha
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
Morbs I agree it was a general ramble. I sometimes feel like sound design is a better argument for modern movies in a theatre than the visual sense.
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
Surprised no one else has Synecdoche
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
2001The Burmese HarpCertified CopyCrumbThe Grand Budapest HotelLate SpringLe MéprisMulholland Dr.News from HomeUncle Boonmee
Archers left out because I couldn't decide btw 7 films
― Miami weisse (WmC), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
xpost I have an unwatched copy of Synecdoche that I might finally be done waiting for my gf to feel like watching with me; will update.
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
This Sporting LifeGoodfellasWild StrawberriesStroszekRear WindowSweet Smell of SuccessBigger Than LifeBarry LyndonCome and SeeMeantime
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
(Avatar is back in, *sigh*)
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:20 (eight months ago) link
How they arrive at this:
In summary, here is an abbreviated breakdown of the 9,664 individual best-of/all-time ballots used (these are classified as A-Lists here), or if you like, from where I have begged, borrowed and stolen:
Sight & Sound 1952-2022 (4,100 ballots)Rotten Tomatoes 2003-2023 (243 ballots) UPDATEDSenses of Cinema 2000-2007 (201 ballots)Filmes do Chico 2005-2017 (194 ballots)Kino Muzeum’s 2015 poll (183 ballots)A.Frame 2020-2023 (147 ballots) NEWNickel Odeon 1994-1998 (136 ballots)Positif’s 1991 & 2019 polls (132 ballots)Time Out's 1995 poll (128 ballots)La Cinetek 2014-2023 (123 ballots) UPDATEDCinephilia's 2012 poll (121 ballots) UPDATEDKinema Junpo 1989-2009 (113 ballots)Your Movie Database (YMDB) Critics Corner 2002-2005 (102 ballots)El Mundo's 1995 poll (100 ballots) UPDATEDPBS Independent Lens 2005-2008 (83 ballots)Film-Magazine's (Iran) 2009 poll (82 ballots)John Kobal Presents the Top 100 Movies (Book) (1988) (81 ballots)Le CiNéMa Club 2015-2023 (79 ballots) UPDATEDSteadycam's 2007 poll (79 ballots)Facets 2003-2008 (76 ballots)Empire 1989-2020 (75 ballots)The Cinematheque's Top 10 Project 2005-2009 (74 ballots)One-Line Review's 2009 poll (69 ballots)El Pais 2009-2010 (60 ballots)HKCinema 2011-2022 (58 ballots)Cut Insight 2012-2018 (53 ballots) UPDATEDCinematheque Belgique's 1952 poll (54 ballots)Cinema Review's 2002 poll (51 ballots)Faróis do Cinema 2010-2015 (51 ballots)Libre Journal du Cinéma's 2009 poll (50 ballots)IONCINEMA.com 2009-2020 (50 ballots)Plus 2,516 more ballots from a variety of other sources.
You should send them a link to the last ILX poll. I don't know if it's any less legitimate than some of those.
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 January 2024 03:46 (eight months ago) link
I'll (uncharacteristically) refrain from turning this into a new poll, but S&S's latest issue features what they're calling the 25 "films of the century" so far ... none of which are Portrait of a Lady on Fire or Moonlight or Parasite: https://letterboxd.com/bfi/list/sight-and-sounds-films-of-the-century/
The Gleaners and I (2000)A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)Divine Intervention (2002)Oldboy (2003)Anatomy of Hell (2004)A History of Violence (2005)Inland Empire (2006)Unrelated (2007)La Rabbia di Pasolini (2008)Everyone Else (2009)Attenberg (2010)Bridesmaids (2011)Barbara (2012)The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (2013)The Babadook (2014)Cemetery of Splendor (2015)Aquarius (2016)Get Out (2017)Kaala (2018)This Is Not a Burial, It’s a Resurrection (2019)Self-Portrait: Window in 47KM (2019)Petite Maman (2021)Walk Up (2022)Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World (2023)The Human Surge 3 (2023)
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2024 15:12 (three months ago) link
Very sad that they overlooked The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
More seriously, I would have thought Zodiac or American Honey might have a chance at something like that. Bridesmaids? I didn't dislike it...
― clemenza, Monday, 17 June 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link
no room for them when they need to include melissa mccarthy farting movies
― master of the pan (abanana), Monday, 17 June 2024 15:40 (three months ago) link
I think I assume Lucrecia Martel to be more canonical than she is because I was expecting to see one of hers in that list. Looking at the latest all time list zama & headless woman are both =196
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:07 (three months ago) link
ok list considering it's just 25 films chosen by 25 critics, want to read the justification for AI tho
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:09 (three months ago) link
25 different critics, that makes a little more sense.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:11 (three months ago) link
That Suleiman film wouldn't have made the list a couple of years ago I don't think.
I don't mean that in a negative way, these things are always a snapshot of their time.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:22 (three months ago) link
Unrelated and Everyone Else were good small-scale art films; I don't see the point of raising expectations unreasonably high by putting them on a list like this.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:36 (three months ago) link
They need one film per year and they need them to not be too obvious.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:41 (three months ago) link
Me too. Not because I'm skeptical, but rather because it's actually the key American film of the century thus far
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:56 (three months ago) link
bold claim! I don't think I've seen any discussion about it over the years, surprised at the idea of it casting any shadow tbh
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:38 (three months ago) link
I've got no problem with this list.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:47 (three months ago) link
I remain a major skeptic of A History of Violence. Cosmopolis feels a lot closer to the times imho
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2024 19:14 (three months ago) link
It's a very quirky list. I assume each writer got to pick a film from one year.
I really liked Petit Maman, which in retrospect is a favorite Celine Sciamma film, and I'm happy to see it here.
I also love Weerasethakul's The Cemetery of Splendor. It is very mysterious and beautiful, and like with all of his films it is about the presence of a secret world that is masked behind the real one. Along with Tropical Malady and Uncle Boonmee I think it is in the top echelon of his films.
A make-shift hospital ward in an old schoolhouse is illuminated with eerie flourescent light poles that change colors to soothe the Thai soldiers there who affected with a sleeping sickness (I guess as a metaphor for the Thai government's ineptitude)
Apparently the past is also present, though. The hospital was built on the burial site of kings from thousands of years ago, and in another world the kings are sapping the energies of the soldiers in the ward to wage a battle
Twin princesses, first seen as figurines in a store but then as real beings, explain this to the protagonist, Jenjira Pongpas (who has fallen in love with a sleeping younger soldier) in a very surreal scene.
The hidden text gives away the plot, but it's not an exciting plot. Like with all of his films, not much happens but it is transfixing
― Dan S, Monday, 17 June 2024 23:01 (three months ago) link
Petit Maman is the the only Sciamma film I don't get.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 09:15 (three months ago) link