Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Didn't Biden have a noticeable lack of endorsements + funding problems?

funding definitely trails most of the competition

and then they drifted away, called by the swansongs of the Best Little Boy in the World, That Other Billionaire, and that aunt that nobody likes

xps

sanders/clinton ticket ftw

― Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Monday, February 24, 2020 2:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Key is to walk the very thin tightrope between a vp that would expand his appeal and a vp that would get the CIA breaking out the heart attack gun day 1

Sanders should pick whichever human being is most annoying to Pete Buttigieg personally. There has to be another young, white, gay politician out there willing to take the job.

tom scocca has been making the point that "the establishment" wouldn't have this problem if they had rallied around warren, which on one level misses the point (lots of the establishment disagree with her on policy), but on the other hand you feel like she would have satisfied that part of the establishment that cares less about policy and more about style. in any case, i'm sure they wish they'd backed her now.

This is the bleak slapstick comedy behind today’s theatrical hostilities between Bernie and the party establishment https://t.co/kNHIfareaw

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) February 22, 2020

A bunch of people who didn’t want to pay more taxes or face corporate regulations decided they could make the demand for universal healthcare and economic justice go away if they kneecapped the more mainstream of the two leftmost candidates

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) February 22, 2020

So they declared a widely acceptable candidate to be unacceptable and dug up Joe Biden’s corpse and sent it shambling out there to draw the normie name-recognition vote away

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) February 22, 2020

If the establishment rallied around Warren it might not have made the slightest difference. The establishment isn't popular!

Think about Peter Sutcliffe's feelings ffs

xp right. the party doesn't decide any more. but to the extent they are a coherent entity with influence over the press etc. (which may be the problem this year) they're pretty influential!

SC polling all over the place, but Biden looks like he will win
Former Vice President Joe Biden's lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in South Carolina has narrowed to just 4 points as the state's presidential primary nears, according to a new NBC News-Marist survey released Monday.

The slim lead is well within the survey's margin of error of 6 percentage points. Twenty-seven percent of likely Democratic primary voters said they favored Biden, while 23 percent said they would support Sanders, who has emerged as the clear front-runner in the race after a decisive victory in the Nevada caucuses.

honestly at this point it's tough for me to believe even a resounding Biden victory in SC would convincingly shift the narrative, but we'll see soon enough I guess

gearing up to win his first primary in 32 years of trying, way to go joe

since there will be such quick turnaround from SC to super tuesday will there be time for a “narrative” to take hold?

depends on whether he wins the coveted nelson mandela endorsement

No also California has been voting for like a week already xp

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484431-bloomberg-called-warren-scary-knocked-obamas-first-term-in-leaked-audio

lmao @ bloomberg being such a disaster area

something about Bloomberg comes out on the hour

feels like forever since Biden, the actual #2 guy right now, got hit with the oppo ray

"Biden doesn't like Tusk"

how soon do we discover the Bloomberg Twitter teens?

Court documents also provide a window in Bloomberg's private investment portfolio. Last year, White Star Petroleum, an Oklahoma fracking firm, went bankrupt. The disclosures that came out in court show that Bloomberg's family wealth fund was an investor in the company.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) February 24, 2020

Shocked, shocked to find fracking in this portfolio

btw Chris Hayes is at this moment during an admirable job admonishing members of his own network for "freaking out" about Sanders.

No also California has been voting for like a week already xp

Something like twice the total number of votes cast in the first three states added together have already been returned in CA? Washington’s ballots went out last week too

SC polling all over the place, but Biden looks like he will win
Former Vice President Joe Biden's lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in South Carolina has narrowed to just 4 points as the state's presidential primary nears,

It's so, so dumb that anyone spends any time thinking about who "wins" each primary when the difference in delegates between Biden 25 / Sanders 23 and Biden 23 / Sanders 25 is, well, basically nothing.

Re Scocca's theory on the establishment kneecapping Warren, of course as a Warren supporter I'd like to believe that but the honest truth is that most people aren't particularly like me, and don't like what I like or want what I want or care about what I care about, and so they don't support the candidate I like, it's not a conspiracy, so be it and too bad.

How did they kneecap her? Idg that. And is she more capable an administrator than Sanders and thus more likely to effectively implement eat-the-rich policies that hurt the Establishment or is she less threatening to the Establishment because ... why now? Didn't say good things about literacy in Cuba? Supporters don't make rat jokes?

Secured 50% of the NYT endorsement?

Or is the point that they should have boosted her to split the left vote?

Re Scocca's theory on the establishment kneecapping Warren, of course as a Warren supporter I'd like to believe that but the honest truth is that most people aren't particularly like me, and don't like what I like or want what I want or care about what I care about, and so they don't support the candidate I like, it's not a conspiracy, so be it and too bad.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, February 24, 2020 10:28 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

shh, everything is a conspiracy

All conspiracy theories are essentially antisemitic

That's what they want you to think.

Uh

I guess he means they could have all rallied to her so that it was heads-up against Bernie but that's a pretty ridiculous idea (from the standpoint of what people who have wine caves want).

(see also: 'whoever vandalized bloomberg's office was clearly a false flag, no actual protester would... use posterboard!' as if there are not thousands of people who (correctly) think bloomberg is an oligarch but also possess the capability to center a sign)

I mean I do think that the “Bloomberg office vandalism” is fake

If it’s not fake it was performed by vandals who wanted to give the impression that it was fake which is also hilarious

a false false flag

GODDAMMIT i was just about to post that

I think Bloomberg made it, but he outsourced the making

the "oligarch" one is definitely, hilariously fake at the very least

are any of these "Republican claims they were attacked by Obama voter who wrote Obama on her face, but it was backwards" level

Oligarch board was actually a very expensive Banksy that Bloomberg had delivered to that office, just a terrible mixup

maybe Bloomberg....IS...Banks-

If it’s not fake it was performed by vandals who wanted to give the impression that it was fake which is also hilarious

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, February 24, 2020 10:54 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflag

or it was performed by the bloomberg campaign to give the impression that it was performed by vandals who wanted to give the impression it was fake and at some level of the wine being in front of me one should probably consider that someone actually did it

(which, to be clear, is not me saying it was coordinated by any anti-bloomberg campaign, which, why would they need or care to do that)

Whoever was responsible, I'm guessing it wasn't Bloomberg's intent for people to see the graffiti and think 'yes, that's correct'.

Oooooof

“My names Joe Biden I’m running for the United States Senate” pic.twitter.com/sDIaZwTE8q

— Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) February 25, 2020

I think I've tipped fully over into just feeling bad for him.