Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

part of turnout isn't just betting on youth, it's the fact that a lot of millennials are squarely in the 30-40 group not in their twenties and more likely to vote, Republicans do so terribly in any younger demos that this number increases every year

conversely the GOP's most reliable demo dies off every year

compared to four years ago there's a lot more 35 yr old millennials and a lot more dead Fox News junkies

i think Iggy Pop will vote for Bern

who really gives a fuck if Sanders said something mildly complimentary to Castro? Our current president has his lips attached to Putin's colon human-centipede style. No one gives a fuck.

apologizing for saying that stuff would have been a lot worse

but Putin is not a... COMMUNIST! ofc, neither is Fidel Castro, who is a corpse.

Insofar as Fidel Castro is, in fact, Justin Trudeau's biological father, this bodes well for future US-Canada relations.

Warren doesn't add a swing state to the ticket. I think the obvious choices would be Senator Baldwin (if she's willing) or Stacey Abrams. Either would make a good president, in fact either would be better than Sanders.

there's so many ppl in media/politics, Trump esp. who seem to think everything stopped in 85

Staffing the executive branch, regulatory agencies.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 24, 2020 5:21 AM (nine hours ago)

I'm not trying to be to obtuse here, but--can you be more specific? Why would Warren be better at staffing than Bernie?

When I asked Warren what people didn’t understand about the powers federal agencies wielded, that was her answer. “Personnel is policy here,” she replied. “The tools are already embedded in the agencies. It’s just going to take somebody to pick them up and use them.”

The tricky thing about this part of Warren’s worldview is that no candidate would really argue with it. They all agree that personnel matters, that choosing good people and managing them well is important. But there’s a difference between knowing it and prioritizing it, between saying it and doing it. For Warren, putting the right people in the right jobs — and, just as importantly, keeping the wrong people out of those jobs — is an obsession, and she spends her political capital accordingly.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/15/21054083/elizabeth-warren-2020-democratic-primary

Warren doesn't add a swing state to the ticket. I think the obvious choices would be Senator Baldwin (if she's willing) or Stacey Abrams. Either would make a good president, in fact either would be better than Sanders.

haven't both them said they're not interested in being the VP? I am pretty sure Abrams did. Not sure if Baldwin would want to leave her post, people love her here

I think finding competent and experienced managers who also have visibly progressive politics would be difficult for both Warren and Sanders, because both the corporate world and recent federal administrations have favored elevating those who bolster the status quo, and when they are not status quo moderates, they are more often conservatives/libertarians/buccaneers than progressives. This limits the experienced talent pool.

My sense is that both Warren and Sanders would need to look to academia, law firms, and to politicians from smaller jurisdictions who seem smart and capable of learning fast on the job, with the aid and assistance of the professional civil service bureaucrats under them. I think Warren would be more likely to seek academics and lawyers, while Sanders would be more likely to seek younger politicians.

that trial balloon coming out of the sanders campaign speculating about making the VP also a cabinet secretary was v exciting and I hope they do that.

:) https://t.co/2SEKtniLG2

— Marianne Williamson (@marwilliamson) February 24, 2020

haven't both them said they're not interested in being the VP? I am pretty sure Abrams did.

the opposite, in Abrams case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/10/stacey-abrams-says-she-would-consider-being-vice-president-i-will-not-diminish-my-ambition/

xpost jrn, this is from The Root (Michael Harriot) but I like how he brings up that she is intentional. She is super organized and intentional and is doing the work and not just coasting on having potential.

She has displayed the ability to translate her progressive policies into populist ideas, something that Sanders still struggles with. She is intentional about highlighting the scourge of institutional white supremacy, LGBTQ rights and underrepresented communities. She is willing to stand up to the rich without demonizing success. She is careful to explain progressive tax policy as a math problem that will uplift the poor, implement corporate responsibility and benefit the middle class.

She has displayed the ability to translate her progressive policies into populist ideas, something that Sanders still struggles with.

i'm guessing this is meant to read 'translate her populist ideas into progressive policies'

I'm guessing Harriot hadn't entirely thought through what he was attempting to convey and just settled for some suggestive verbiage, which when examined closely is quite confusing

here's the link. in general most of gizmodo/kinja/whatever it's called blog posts are so so about editing/correcting after posting.

https://www.theroot.com/elizabeth-warren-exists-1841775506

I would say Sanders has been quite intentional too, in terms of reaching out to communities that he struggled with before. And it seems like he’s been much more successful in doing so.

She is careful to explain progressive tax policy as a math problem that will uplift the poor, implement corporate responsibility and benefit the middle class.

My feeling is that this framing mainly connects with people who are not actually in the more marginalized communities that she’s trying to build support in..

I just can’t take an article seriously with that opening paragraph

Of VP choices not yet mentioned, I'd also be happy if Sanders picked Sen. Jeff Merkley (OR-Dem) as his VP.

i see you are not familiar with michael harriot. xpost.

I think I’ve encountered his writing before but does he always do this awful fairy-tale shit? He doesn’t even spell dotard correctly.

She is intentional about highlighting the scourge of institutional white supremacy

i can think of one thing she's done that has highlighted the scourge of institutional white supremacy

lol

“Eat the Rich”
Our office in Flint, MI

America deserves better. pic.twitter.com/ar5jKPmIJs

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 24, 2020

“Vladimir Putin is willing to poison anyone who disagrees with him, but have you seen how that
guy looks without a shirt!! Mmm delish!” --- #BernieOnDespots

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 24, 2020

All the Warren staffing/blah blah blah stuff is very 2016 “Hillary is the most QUALIFIED candidate ever” because, uh, vague credentials.

Bernie has as much or more ‘executive’ experience than Warren. He’s been staffing Congressional offices for three decades, successful mayor for what, a decade?

what the fuck is that Bloomberg tweet

blue checkmark aside i am steadfast in my belief that @Mike2020 is a parody account

Either his consultants have just said fuck it or he took personal control after finding out normal people hate him.

milo is there anything you find disappointing about Bernie

Doesn’t cover his head in public or wear talit katan :/

(Nor do I tho)

Campaigning for a pro-life mayoral candidate in the Rockies, voting for the ‘94 Crime Bill, being incredibly old

Absolute state of this thread, these campaign staff are just taking the money and laughing, right? Even the “America deserves better”. Too good.

This originally said “American deserves better,” just to really underscore the half-assedness.

the mike2020 tweets are such pitch-perfect self-owns it’s incredible

A Buttigieg-supporting friend of mine asked "What's wrong with billionaires?" last night on FB and my reply was "eat em"

they taste terrible iirc

Amazing. I’m kind of boggling at the Putin tweet, especially as someone almost instantly replied with a picture of the two of them

IDGAF about credentials because I see no evidence that there are credentials for being the most powerful human being.

American does deserve better, I'm sure the rich are tough and stringy, not to mention that they're already demonstrably lacking in taste. Perhaps the rich could be used as an alternative fuel source, instead?

The rich would be plump like wagyu , you need to render out the fat to make them edible.

It depends if they’re rich people who live on greens or exercise or if they have a diet like Trump.

I assume that Trump tastes like a fistful of Alpo drizzled in Donkey Sauce.

OK I’m tapping out. Can we bring back iatee complaining about the bern please

Tomboto what is the read from the blue-oxford-shirt and khaki pants demographic

just in general

holy shit there's a bunch of those Bloomberg tweets

what idiots