Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

was the bus driver who said "Gargle my balls" to the ICE agent cute?

If you consider voting for Trump, you were never a Democrat and are in fact a ball-gargling aasshole.

Some dixiecrats who haven't changed affiliation yet?

even if they're still registered or affiliated as democrats, they likely wouldn't "identify" as a democrat if asked by a pollster

Mike Bloomberg poked fun last year at a father and son who died from heroin overdoses at the same Brooklyn party, calling them “not a good family" to laughs from a crowd of business executives, the Daily News has learned.https://t.co/fNWESr4x14

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) February 24, 2020

bring in the super delegates, and cut deals like crazy.

ie prepare to raise money off Orange Dipshit for another term

counting on a raving dumbass who never held office to win had, historically, never worked until 2016

if the argument is that Bernie's coalition is going to be as big as (or bigger than) Obama's, I don't think that's being borne out in polls or primary votes. I think the opposition to Bernie from within the party is of a different kind and scale than that faced by Obama.

The argument is that people spending time worrying about whether Sanders can win should support him like they would any other Dem nominee, not that Sanders supporters need to somehow rethink their support.

When do candidates usually name their running mates? That choice could mitigate a lot of concerns over Sanders. Even if everything about him was as mainstream Dem as it gets, he's still a 78-year old who had a heart attack only a few months ago, and has been cagey with his health records. Given that he would be pushing 90 at the end of a second term, there's probably a good chance his VP could get called up from the bench. Or spend a lot of term one establishing presidential bona fides and run in his place in 2024.

lol @Har Mar Klobuchar. Har Mar is even from Minnesota.

It's usually right before the convention, right?

Trump picked Pence on July 15, the RNC began July 18.
Clinton picked Kaine on July 22, the DNC began July 25.

A longer lead time in 2012, though: Romney picked Ryan on August 11, convention began August 27.

I think it all depends on how long it takes to deliver that particular series of blowjobs.

(inserts Mr. Show sketch here)

ball-gargling iirc

There are the examples of Reagan in 1976 and Ted Cruz in 2016 picking VP candidates during ultimately unsuccessful campaigns for the nomination.

sanders/clinton ticket ftw

I see that you're in favor of painting the White House black.

"has been cagey with his health records" ?

I thought he said he wasn't going to release his health records?

keep them in a cage

He said he wasn't going to piss about responding to every bad-faith call for his health records when he'd already released his health records.

Did he? If he did I stand corrected. If he did, then what is there to ask for?

IIRC from debate:

Buttigieg: Bernie Sanders said he was going to release health records, why hasn't he not?
Sanders: I did, you putz, plus several letters from doctors regarding my health.
Buttigieg: Yes, but why does you not release health records? I am having concerned.

I may not have the wording quite right but I believe that was the gist.

in the future, you'll decide if you want to consider being president at age 5 and be fitted with a sensor package that constantly monitors all your vital signs. the complete set of records will be available to the populace when you announce your candidacy

alternatively, your health insurance provider's fitbit or apple watch device mandated by your policy terms will release the records when you push a button in the app

health records are the new long-form birth certificate

WHY HAVE YOU NOT PROVIDED A MINUTE-BY-MINUTE ACCOUNTING OF YOUR LIFE UP UNTIL THE MOMENT I ASKED THIS QUESTION, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE

Isn't that what his person said? Compared it to birtherism or some shit? I'm not really paying close attention to this stuff yet, but tbf he literally just had a heart attack. Hell, for all I know they've all had heart attacks, including President Fart Attack.

I haven't watched any of the debates, but would totally watch one if they were all wearing medical masks.

"What is your position on gun control"

"Mmrrffuffufer!"

I'm not really paying close attention to this stuff yet, but tbf he literally just had a heart attack.

tbf this is literally what the three doctor’s letters were about.

Yes, but when is he going to provide us with a doctor's commentary on his health, particularly as regards his recent heart attack? When? When?!

I guess I was just confused by the story I saw fly by my feed. Something about Sanders declaring he would be totally transparent, then later changing his position to something more like "I've been transparent enough" or something? Again, if that's the case, fine. I don't really give a shit one way or another, if he's nominated he's got my vote even if he's running from the ICU.

AFAICT it's some 'when are you going to release your tax returns?'/'I totally did already.'/'yes, but where are the receipts?!' bullshit escalation.

idgaf if he drops dead his first year on the job, longa s he has a strong VP candidate

How is releasing more information than the other candidates, including new updates from your personal physician and two (2) cardiologists, NOT being transparent enough? It’s not “changing his position” to say he already did something that he already did.

his masterplan is to have a second, fatal heart attack in '26 to set up a run from the Candidate Least Likely To Drop Dead: AOC. masterful

idgaf if he drops dead his first year on the job, long ass he has a strong VP candidate

this is why I want cyborg Elizabeth Warren as his VP

I think Sanders' health is a legit concern but if it's not hurting him in the primary then it's not gonna hurt him in the general

dang xpost, also lol

part of turnout isn't just betting on youth, it's the fact that a lot of millennials are squarely in the 30-40 group not in their twenties and more likely to vote, Republicans do so terribly in any younger demos that this number increases every year

conversely the GOP's most reliable demo dies off every year

compared to four years ago there's a lot more 35 yr old millennials and a lot more dead Fox News junkies

i think Iggy Pop will vote for Bern

who really gives a fuck if Sanders said something mildly complimentary to Castro? Our current president has his lips attached to Putin's colon human-centipede style. No one gives a fuck.

apologizing for saying that stuff would have been a lot worse

but Putin is not a... COMMUNIST! ofc, neither is Fidel Castro, who is a corpse.

Insofar as Fidel Castro is, in fact, Justin Trudeau's biological father, this bodes well for future US-Canada relations.

Warren doesn't add a swing state to the ticket. I think the obvious choices would be Senator Baldwin (if she's willing) or Stacey Abrams. Either would make a good president, in fact either would be better than Sanders.

there's so many ppl in media/politics, Trump esp. who seem to think everything stopped in 85

Staffing the executive branch, regulatory agencies.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 24, 2020 5:21 AM (nine hours ago)

I'm not trying to be to obtuse here, but--can you be more specific? Why would Warren be better at staffing than Bernie?

When I asked Warren what people didn’t understand about the powers federal agencies wielded, that was her answer. “Personnel is policy here,” she replied. “The tools are already embedded in the agencies. It’s just going to take somebody to pick them up and use them.”

The tricky thing about this part of Warren’s worldview is that no candidate would really argue with it. They all agree that personnel matters, that choosing good people and managing them well is important. But there’s a difference between knowing it and prioritizing it, between saying it and doing it. For Warren, putting the right people in the right jobs — and, just as importantly, keeping the wrong people out of those jobs — is an obsession, and she spends her political capital accordingly.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/15/21054083/elizabeth-warren-2020-democratic-primary