Disney's newest movie FROZEN, loosely based on The Snow Queen

xp I don’t know, I’ve seen a lot of Disney movies, I can’t immediately think of another scene where a hero racked with despair and hopelessness finds a way to summon inner resources and commit to something greater than herself.

And I don’t think Olaf “grows up,” in fact it’s the opposite — I think he comes to recognize and accept that he’s not human. I’d have to see it again; I thought Olaf was a great part of this movie, but the details are fuzzy on exactly how.

You want Elsa to “unite as a couple” with her shadow self? That’s weird, lol

And I don’t think Anna’s codependent; she’s been deeply affected by the enforced separation between herself and her sister, and wants for them to be able to fully connect and support each other, without Anna being pushed away.

lol, it's a *metaphoric* shadow self. It's really just another lonely girl with powers, who "completes" her.

And Olaf doesn't grow up! But all of his songs and much of his dialogue is about getting older and aging, weird things for an ageless, practically immortal being magically created fully formedfrom snow to consider.

regardless, my imaginary movie got nominated for best animated film, and this one didn't, so there.

xp Exactly (re: Olaf) — and there’s something poignant about how that’s done.

I also have to confess I don’t understand the popular fixation with “setting Elsa up“… until the end of this movie, she clearly wasn’t ready to be in a relationship with anyone, because she hadn’t “found herself” yet.

(I mean, I read one of the filmmakers say something like that an interview, so it’s not an original insight. But I think it’s on the money.)

The point of the Olaf song is that it won't make sense when he is older, because old people are lying about settler colonialism! It was obvious!

And Elsa freezes because that's what realizing the dark truth of settler colonialism does to people, ice powers or not.

Josh, did you see Toy Story 4, which actually did win Best Animated Feature Film? (I haven’t yet)

I did! I recall thinking it was okay, same with part 3. but to me toy story 2 is the best one.

Man, you want tears? I just got back from my daughter's middle school performance of songs from Frozen and Moana, supporting kids with special needs, and it's remarkable seeing how much this music moves and means to kids.

Dang... I can imagine.

Next movie should be a back to basics move

Let's get back to the sound of two sisters, an iceman and his reindeer, and an anthropomorphic snowman in a room playing

This movie was fine, someone upthread best described it as the quality of a direct-to-video sequel. "Lost in the Woods" was the one song I'll take away from this, and that song felt the least well integrated into the movie

Way too much snowman

Nordic Jar-Jar

When he's so annoying that even the other characters hope he falls asleep, that's sort of a own goal.

I liked the sequel more than the first one *runs away*

^me too

No, that's fair. I didn't think this one was terrible any more than I thought the first one was particularly good. They are both fine. This one is just a lot more muddled and therefore brings more attention to its faults, imo.

I love the artwork in the Little Golden Book adaptation (I’m a real Frozen Bro, lol)

https://i.imgur.com/wfu1BRX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Over the holidays, when I didn't have a lot else to think about, I spent time browsing fan Instagram accts. devoted to "Frozen," and found ppl who had already seen the new film seven times. I can sort of relate to that level of obsession (even though I couldn't personally match it).

wait, that's not how it happenend in the movie. she totally tamed that sea stallion, as is the dream of every girl

this one was fine but too beholden to the first movie to really do anything all that great

but i was also annoyed!

where the *fuck* did all that water from the dam go ELSA

what is that stupid cutesy fire lizard?

and how come elsa gets to be special all over again? SHE DONE ALREADY DONE HAD HERSES

i really loved it, it is not quite the queer feminist pagan fantasy that i pretend it is but i still pretend that it is. we saw it at the cinema and will probably watch it again this afternoon

“Lost in the Woods” would make a great karaoke cut

yeah it’s like a lost Peter Cetera song, it’s really good

"You're the Inspiration" vibes a-plenty

Except more of a boring Broadway pastiche version of that, imo.

both things exist on the highest equal plane for some people, e.g. Jim Pardo

^hey, I’m a huge Pardo fan!

(I’m sure y’all are aware this is now available on D+, several months early)

Today I had to fast-forward to where my kids had been in the movie (after Disney+ fritzed out); I was like, “...was it after she meets the Nokk?,” and my wife was all, “How the f do you know what the horse is called?”

My daughter made this today. Dunno if this will work ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi58fwClSzA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0S8oB3FgLbtYW5HO1XvfrHdolTilxtbBl2U8vlQoEZv7xEOCmFios6jIM

No.

Yeah it worked. Cool!

How did it work for you? Are you able to access the link at least? I just see an error note. Anyway, here is the link, which needs to be de-quoted::

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi58fwClSzA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1wJFSS3ver2R2DipEUfLDIri1JFTQKSSqLD7acZo8FsPpOJtA126CGVGI";

Or not. Dammit!

I still can't see it.

http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=Yi58fwClSzA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1wJFSS3ver2R2DipEUfLDIri1JFTQKSSqLD7acZo8FsPpOJtA126CGVGI

OK, I assume just reconnect the two halves of that link.

I had just clicked on the original link in my web browser…

very cute, especially her Sven impression.

so cute! thumbs up on moose and snowman

https://www.instagram.com/p/CABP91pHgck/

🤘

There's another new(-ish) Olaf retcon short on Disney+, called "Once Upon a Snowman." It's cute, but I only accept the Chris Buck / Jennifer Lee productions as Frozen canon.

It's so f'd up that Anna leaves Hans in charge (when Elsa flees) - they presumably have a palace full of lifelong advisors, one of them really should have put the kibosh on that.