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The effect on the Proms is one of the things that might create the pressure to change this self-evidently stupid rule.

I suspect there are a lot of African groups who rely on international touring for whom the UK just became a prohibitively expensive place to play as well.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:45 (six years ago)

hasn't that been the case for a while?

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/aug/02/womad-visa-fiasco-brexit-britain-live-music-festival

koogs, Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:59 (six years ago)

Yes, all this does is extend it to EU performers aiui.

ShariVari, Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:01 (six years ago)

EXCLUSIVE: Rebecca Long-Bailey and Princess Diana's poignant meeting thanks to raffle winhttps://t.co/ECMTsyVwcQ pic.twitter.com/Ud9RpPolbZ

— Sunday Mirror (@TheSundayMirror) February 22, 2020

recent evidence from NKVD dossier has emerged revealing early class enemy tendencies in comrade RLB!

calzino, Saturday, 22 February 2020 21:56 (six years ago)

Paywalled but the Sunday Times has claimed that MI5 is withholding intelligence from Priti Patel as they don’t trust her. May be true, might be an attempt to further the narrative of the establishment undermining the government.

ShariVari, Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:07 (six years ago)

When does Boris get impeached?

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:17 (six years ago)

It's highly believable for all sorts of reasons so if it is a confected story it's a very good one.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:23 (six years ago)

Patel seems deranged at times, her "economically inactive" quip the other day coupled with the attempts to normalise Eugenics were giving me nightmares this week. I think if she was given a free hand she would literally have disabled people banged up in Soviet era style "psychiatric hospitals" until some final solution can be found. Although some of that is already going on in the NHS.

calzino, Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:28 (six years ago)

She's reestablishing the death penalty through other, more devious means.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:30 (six years ago)

Der Stürmer 1935; or the Morning Star, 2020? Could barely believe my eyes seeing this dehumanising, fascist imagery in a socialist paper. An absolute disgrace to the great traditions of socialism and liberation you are meant to stand for. pic.twitter.com/ljwhWRfSUJ

— ✴Torr✴ (@Torr_ro) February 22, 2020

The Morning Star, the newspaper of the bigoted crank left is actually Spiked in disguise.

calzino, Sunday, 23 February 2020 11:39 (six years ago)

Transphobia was the discussion on the Moral Maze last night, nearly broke my neck jumping across the kitchen to turn the radio over

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 February 2020 12:48 (six years ago)

Sweet:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/23/the-sun-records-huge-loss-amid-falling-print-sales-phone-hacking-damages

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:01 (six years ago)

A chink of light at last!

the punk wars are over and prog rock won (Matt #2), Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:09 (six years ago)

That bit about Tabcorp paying them millions to get out of a shit deal is Trump-level grift.

nashwan, Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:14 (six years ago)

*Daily* House of Lords attendance payment: £323.

*Monthly* Universal Credit standard payment: £318.

Abolish the Lords. Build a social security system that treats people with dignity and respect. https://t.co/Do2VVUD9hm

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) February 23, 2020

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 February 2020 22:53 (six years ago)

look at the state of that room, if you lobbed a couple of fucking lethal fragmentation grenades in there what chance of killing anyone worth shit?

calzino, Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:18 (six years ago)

Might be cleaners or somebody in the area maybe

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:26 (six years ago)

A thread to bookmark

a trying thing in the next year will be all these british blue ticks who made a point of being corbyn wreckers who will inevitably come out for bernie and will credulously ask why we can't have anything like him here

— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) January 11, 2020



Seriously, all that separates acceptability for some of these cunts is whether the person is here or there. See: AOC, Ilhan Omar.

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 07:41 (six years ago)

Obviously these people are transparent and would be anti-Bernie/Ilhan/AOC if there were near instead of far but if you're looking through a psychological or performative lens (which many voters do, not counting bluetick balloons) then there is a pretty big gulf between The Chad Sanders and Corbyn (some of which isn't Corbyn's fault per se)

anvil, Monday, 24 February 2020 08:31 (six years ago)

Something that appears really striking is how uncompromising Sanders comes across in his rhetoric, even if his policies are fairly standard soc dem stuff for the most part. Corbyn looks very measured and conciliatory in comparison.

ShariVari, Monday, 24 February 2020 08:35 (six years ago)

Yeah good points, I wish Corbyn had shut down people as well as Sanders does! This obviously contributes to the perception of him as weak and dithery.

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 08:37 (six years ago)

There are so many different lenses to view this stuff through, Biden voters second choice is Bernie not one of the other centrists.

Its no good having good policies if people believe you don't have the resolve to follow through. Bernie thrives on being attacked, its a TOH, and surviving a TOH gets you respect across the board. Bernie is doing well not just because those policies are popular but because he's solid, he's become a chad, and who do you want next to you when you're going into a fight. He'll go on Rogan or Fox and do his stuff. People respond to this stuff, even people not necessarily ideologically aligned

On some level the blueticks are responding to this in the way voters respond to this (though blueticks are generally of much lower intelligence the man on the street they are still known to respond to stimuli in this way)

anvil, Monday, 24 February 2020 08:50 (six years ago)

Corbyn was a fucking colossus compared to the current front runner to be next leader. That fucking legendary Valentines's night in Newcastle anecdote was actually the peak of Starmer's ability as a public persona and his best material and it went down very well in the focus group. When he relaxes more into his role and takes a more casual approach he'll be much worse.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 09:23 (six years ago)

No one going to dispute that. Dude has an A4 notebook from paperchase with 'Competency' in the margin and underlined in red

anvil, Monday, 24 February 2020 09:38 (six years ago)

The ballots drop today, it will soon be effectively all over but still drag on for another month :(

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 09:46 (six years ago)

Don't vote for the melt or the kipper, no second ptefs. Pass it on.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 09:48 (six years ago)

xp this whole post is both hilarious and otm, esp re blueticks

Reminds me of the best thing ever said in a Bernie chad meme (about his hair)
https://i.redd.it/cnounvpsbo541.png

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 09:50 (six years ago)

what is the English equivalent of an antiquated Brooklyn accent?

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 10:05 (six years ago)

Strong East London/East End accent?

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 10:06 (six years ago)

I think if Corbyn was a bit more of a hoodlum and spoke like Danny Dyer - still same result perhaps.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 10:13 (six years ago)

instead of London metropolitan elite he'd be lampooned as too provincial and lacking in gravitas.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 10:15 (six years ago)

Not sure Bernie could carry this look off though
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1YepftW0AArGF3?format=jpg&name=large

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 10:21 (six years ago)

He lighted a lot of ppl's fires apparently! from a UK perspective I think Bernie's accent is really great, it's a quality malt whiskey or something. Stephen Kotkin has a similar fine accent although apparently it is becoming a "linguistic fossil" these days.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 10:24 (six years ago)

A TOH is apparently a 'test of heart', for those not up on their prison slang. I appreciate this raises more questions than it answers.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 February 2020 10:33 (six years ago)

This is the oldest thing I’ve seen posted itt since the last time Tom commented

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 10:40 (six years ago)

Here you, less o' that.

what is the English equivalent of an antiquated Brooklyn accent?

Suggest watching Sydney Tafler's masterful performance in William Friedkin's film version of "The Birthday Party".

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 24 February 2020 10:50 (six years ago)

I mean an obvious difference between Bernie and Corbyn is that Sanders has (of late) a halfway decent foreign policy, including criticism of Israel, but no-one is going to be calling him anti-semitic.

It also helps that he doesn't have a habit of calling Chris Williamson a grand bunch of lad, of course.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:08 (six years ago)

He has already been attacked as deliberately enabling antisemitism, and antisemitic by proxy wrt Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour, it just hasn't been effective so far.

ShariVari, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:16 (six years ago)

"but no-one is going to be calling him anti-semitic."

you are wrong there Andrew, but I agree that Corbyn was too lackadaisical and almost blind to the problem of dealing with internal bigots and fools at times.

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:19 (six years ago)

lol people have definitely tried “the guy who lost loads of family members in the Holocaust is antisemitic”, it’s quite the thing to be both antisemitic and subject to antisemitism.

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 11:21 (six years ago)

Yeah, fair enough - he'll get everything on the epithet wheel, but it won't stick.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:21 (six years ago)

Tom Gann has a thread on his leadership votes. Even though I made the membership cutoff and have a card and all that, I’m still concerned I won’t get a ballot? We’ll see today I guess.

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 11:23 (six years ago)

Sanders has faced criticisms in his policy in regards to Israel. That aside Sanders is nowhere near the anti-imperialist that Corbyn is. 90% of Sanders' policy is on the domestic front and that's the way it should be.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:24 (six years ago)

alas, not everyone can be Fred

calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:27 (six years ago)

Idk, I feel like AIPAC saying he’d never been to their conference and actively campaigning against him did him some good on that front? Plus he has family living in Israel, his stance is fine imo.

hyds (gyac), Monday, 24 February 2020 11:28 (six years ago)

Sanders comes across as a more of a radical than Corbyn just by virtue of being caught up in the most jingoistically exceptionalist political system of all. Republicans/Dem centrists who emphasize the extent to which m4a supposedly lacks 'mainstream' appeal consistently remind me of a what a bizarro world the US continues to be, even compared to the bullshit now unfolding on this here isle.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 24 February 2020 11:29 (six years ago)

Its not about the attacks, its about the response to the attacks. Thats why its a TOH and why beyond a certain point the attacks no longer hurt, they help. Standing up to bullies shows solidity

anvil, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:31 (six years ago)

Sanders is definitely doing a better job on that front than, say, Warren, whose response to the 'Pocahontas' taunts was as wrongheaded as it gets.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 24 February 2020 11:33 (six years ago)

Bernie's message is I got this leave it with me, and Warrens is I'll come round your house and show you some documents

What kind of sicko wants to have someone come round their house with a bunch of documents

anvil, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:37 (six years ago)


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