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Death can't come quickly enough for the Telegraph tbh

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/20/brexit-britain-true-heir-ancient-greece-just-ask-elgin-marbles/

... supposed to be funny?!?!

― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, February 21, 2020 12:16 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Standards really slipping as any fule no the first king of the britons was Brutus of Troy.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 20 February 2020 21:28 (six years ago)

It's not colonialism it's ach well you know

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:16 (six years ago)

"Brutus Bites Bottoms!" used to be the motto of this dodgy paedo PE teacher we had had who ..never mind!

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 00:26 (six years ago)

well had a slipper he called Brutus that he used to menacingly parade up and down the shower area with!

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 00:28 (six years ago)

Working exactly as intended:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/21/immigration-rules-post-brexit-could-fuel-modern-slavery-say-charities

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Friday, 21 February 2020 10:00 (six years ago)

brutus bites bottoms while big ben bongs for brexit, bellows boris in bellicose broadside

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 February 2020 10:02 (six years ago)

1. Get tougher on immigration
2. "Blimey those Eastern-European workers are still coming over, stealing *our* jobs *illegally* this time!"
3. Get even tougher on immigration
4. Profit?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:57 (six years ago)

jings

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERS6NjNWoAELhbY?format=jpg&name=900x900

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 February 2020 11:23 (six years ago)

does Rory have any kind of casual association with Sting? That could be damning evidence.

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 11:27 (six years ago)

#RoryWanks

Matt DC, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:07 (six years ago)

ew, matt.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:07 (six years ago)

#RoryWanksinDari *please*

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:08 (six years ago)

100% Rory Stewart hangs out regularly with Sting and there is nothing more on-brand for him than owning a string of tantric brothels apparently without realising it.

Matt DC, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:10 (six years ago)

You all know the Sting tantric thing was a joke? Unlike Rory's no doubt, I could well imagine him partaking with an employee of his choice.

empire of the shunned (Matt #2), Friday, 21 February 2020 12:14 (six years ago)

tantric massage with its lucrative per-hour billing scheme

mark s, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:20 (six years ago)

per-day morelike!

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:21 (six years ago)

i see no reason to believe Sting knows what a joke is

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 12:21 (six years ago)

massage in a brothel

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 12:32 (six years ago)

A+

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:33 (six years ago)

omg

imago, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:34 (six years ago)

That is almost worth thinking about this story in any way shape or form.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:34 (six years ago)

having gotten that out i can now carry on existing for a few short hours

sting was heard to say, as he stepped out of his mate rorys london pad

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 12:35 (six years ago)

iirc the tech that's most commonly used for these kind of facial recognition programmes has like a 75% success rate, which seems kinda reassuring on one hand but also lol i'm gonna go down for a ten stretch because ai judge dredd thinks i'm someone else


75% is a terrible quality level. 1/4 misidentifications will just generate a load of noise and requires a shittonne more cost somewhere else (QA here presumably being following up to see whether red flag is *actually* a crim). how many people pass through a single point in westminster a day? let’s say oxford street - ~500,000 - 125000 of those will be false positives? (someone please correct my maths if that’s wrong). That’s a hell of a lot of things that need following up on if my calcs are right. (it’s a lot even at a much higher “success” rate).

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:41 (six years ago)

is that a worse % than the the system the Chinese use? Although I read somewhere that you have to scan your face when registering a sim card there.

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 13:06 (six years ago)

#RoryWanksinDari *please*


there is absolutely no way to explain this horrendously fucking joke I’m laughing at ffs

hyds (gyac), Friday, 21 February 2020 13:28 (six years ago)

the other way they may be generating that accuracy rate is that for every three people they pick up “correctly” they pick up the wrong person, but that does imply the level of criminals passing through a given point is known so i don’t see how that’s a valid way of judging success rate.

not sure about the chinese rates, calz. tbh any automatic system - actually any *system* - running at 75% success rate is generating a lot of error and inefficiency in some way.

istr this all came up when widespread phone surveillance to catch terrorists was mooted - the sheer amount of noise and false positives such a process generates means a huge amount of spend and resources goes into managing that. you would be far better uses other forms of intelligence gathering likely to generate more targeted outcomes.

the fear of missing something leads to mass trawling that in fact means you are more likely to miss important data points because any signals are drowned out by noise. the logic of the surveillance state is that it’s all about avoiding any possibility of an illegal act rather than totting up the cost - financial and social - of doing so. (financial and social often go together - installing a lot of checks to avoid any possibility of any attack ever means everything moves a lot more slowly and is a lot less productive. for you and i it means a lot more queuing and ID management and checks.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 13:31 (six years ago)

the sheer amount of noise and false positives such a process generates means a huge amount of spend

given that these kind of disastrous tech boondoggles are also run by big donors to the government this is a feature not a bug

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 February 2020 13:47 (six years ago)

i'm sure that's true (there's money to be made in the 'how to deploy, use and successfully manage the outputs of this AI/algorithm technology), but it also feels at some point an argument was lost about the sciencey data at huge volumes, against both intelligent intelligence gathering and also the moral questions of a surveillance state. That's in part the war on terror and the enthusiastically stoked fear of terrorism, and part also the capability of compute power, machine learning and database structures to store, process and manage large amounts of data. I also wonder whether culture wars have replaced explicit questions of moral principle.

I think it was a tory home secretary in the '70s who turned away an MI15 request for more powers, saying 'it's not my job to make your job easier'. unimaginable now.

quite old now (it was just after the de menezes shooting), but this dan davies post on risk management is excellent on the management of the risks of terrorism (and more general principles of thinking about risk).

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:14 (six years ago)

i do also think pols have become *very* credulous about sciencey stuff.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:15 (six years ago)

and er that's MI5, not MI15, god help us.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:16 (six years ago)

oh and that dd post reminded me, has there been any inquiry into the shooting dead in public of the what I just had to google as 'narwhal tusk terror attack' suspect? (Unman Khan)

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:22 (six years ago)

tom cruise grabs a nuclear warhead as his bathchair soars by it in slo-mo, credits roll, ETHAN HUNT WILL RETURN IN MI16: IVE SHIT MESEL AGAIN NURSEY

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:27 (six years ago)

that does remind me of the old man i was next to in a hospital once who kept on calling out in delight “NURSE! NURSE! IVE DONE IT AGAIN!!” whenever he wet the bed.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:34 (six years ago)

lol i too have been next to that old man

mark s, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:36 (six years ago)

ward fouler

ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:41 (six years ago)

loool vg

Fizzles, Friday, 21 February 2020 16:48 (six years ago)

lol what a beautiful set up and finish

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:03 (six years ago)

mighty

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:40 (six years ago)

Hey now

Ward Fowler, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:06 (six years ago)

The BBC's racist agitprop video featured a known Tommy Robinson activist (collected via various tweets).

Time for this institution of white power to die. pic.twitter.com/llDhha6DWt

— Naadir Jeewa (@naadirjeewa) February 21, 2020

well hows about that then? (with another winning cameo from stoya!)

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:31 (six years ago)

Amazing how every single fascist who applies gets selected for a question, isn’t it?

hyds (gyac), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:33 (six years ago)

i recall recently when a non-fascist audience member was accused of being a Labour activist plant he revelled he told the bbc producers/vetting ppl that he was a tory voter!

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:46 (six years ago)

You'd think there be a little more concern that the BBC is actively platforming fascists but hey

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:48 (six years ago)

My considered opinion on the Democratic candidates is they all look shit.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) February 20, 2020

big dunty not a Bernie bro nor even a Warren bro shocker!

calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 19:23 (six years ago)

You'd think he'd be a Bloomberg bro tho, maybe he's just disappointed Mike's made a balls of his campaign

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:36 (six years ago)

On another note I really can't be reading the opinions of melts any more

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:39 (six years ago)

i don't really have a hold on dunty ideologically other than being a shit remainiac pos

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:41 (six years ago)

work is quiet and i have access to the online library of the university i work at, time for a deep dunty dive

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:42 (six years ago)

article about sex workers' rights were he does a "both sides want to censor each other, that's bad", quotes julie bindel, and doesn't come down on either side.

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:46 (six years ago)

he was the political editor of "the erotic review"

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 February 2020 19:47 (six years ago)


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