bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

ah yes, immigrants - they do our shitty menial jobs, therefore we must tolerate them #votelibdem

So Priti, @patel4witham
Who’ll fill the coronation chicken sandwiches?
Who’ll dig cauliflowers out of freezing muddy Cornish fields?
Who’ll wash the hospital bedpans?
Who’ll clean our offices at night?
Who’ll feed, bathe and care for our most vulnerable?
Asking for a friend...

— Caroline Voaden 🔶 (@CarolineVoaden) February 19, 2020

that tweet is NAGL but she got monstered by Julia Hartley-Brewer so now I don't know what to think

culture wars eh?

xxp who will cleanse the piss from our diamonds?

talking of the diamonds of piss I was reminded of their forgotten leader the other day when some senile old cunt in the Lords was making a modest proposal regarding the grey squirrel question!

For the record, this kind of talk is extremely common among Eastern European immigrants.

Which talk, Pom?

Lazy Brit talk?

The idea that EE workers are “cheap” labour and therefore seen as lesser?

That without low-wage labourers from foreign shitholes (as per Donnie Trump), Britain will fall apart.

Here's hoping. It is weird to go to Scotland and be served with people with Scottish accents in cafes etc.

Osbourne came under fire when she attempted to criticise Donald Trump’s controversial proposed immigration policies by asking: “If you kick every Latino out of this country, then who is going to be cleaning your toilet, Donald Trump?”

It goes without saying that the meaning of such statements varies wildly depending on who's uttering them.

qq for pom, and do tell me to fuck off if too personal, but do you get a lot of this yourself? I only ask as I assume you have a Romanian name but if you speak English w/a Canadian accent then I wondered if people treated you differently (and if they were more likely to “well I didn’t mean you”, etc).

I don't mind at all, gyac. I do occasionally hear 'wow, your English is surprisingly good for a Romanian', even after I tell them my family moved to Canada when I was 7, but most people I've encountered are either too closeted in their xenophobia to verbalize such thoughts (I do get weird looks when they hear my first name, though) or simply overlook the side of my identity they dislike. At the pub I have occasionally spoken with not-racist-but types that don't even bother going through the 'well I didn't mean you' motions. The assumption is usually that my (white) Canadian side supersedes all else so they can get away with saying whatever they want. All in all, my wife – who speaks English with a thick French accent – has had more run-ins with gammons than I have.

Just to be clear, as my either/or was needlessly categorical, the majority of people I've met here did not come across as even remotely racist or xenophobic. That said, I have met some English folks who are defiantly anti-Tory and anti-racist when it comes to Eastern European or BAME communities but who have some really bizarre views about the Irish and the Scots in particular, whose legendary 'intolerance' towards the English is utterly terrifying to them, to such an extent that they would never dare set foot in Ireland or Scotland for fear of getting their asses whooped.

I've known a few normally ungammony ppl get very butthurt about Irish/Scots/Welsh cheering against the English football team.

Me, I tend to assume that any I/S/W who don't badmind the England football team are fascists

xp yep I’ve had some weird run-ins with people who probably think of themselves as really liberal espousing views about Irish people straight out of Punch cartoons

(this is not me saying “oh they’d never say it about black/Asian people” but rather that loads of anti-Irish sentiment is so ingrained people don’t even recognise it. See also: James McClean.)

a brexity bloke I worked with around the time of the scottish independence referendum took relish in telling me he thought if scotland voted no then england should have a vote of its own on whether or not to kick it out 👍

I've known a few normally ungammony ppl get very butthurt about Irish/Scots/Welsh cheering against the English football team.

Yes, you've got to be careful with this, though they're usually more sad than angry.

When I first moved to London I was working with a load of Australians, South Africans and New Zealanders and a World Cup was on and they all wanted England to lose - not only at football, but at cricket, rugby, you name it. Felt a bit less guilty after that.

xxp that's some br'er rabbit stuff there.

Most Canadians would cheer for England, I think, but I grew up in Quebec so 🤷.

xp

Fortunately I am married to a self-hating Englishman so I never have the difficulty of this being something we disagree on. I have definitely moved from less nationalistic to more the longer I’ve lived here and honestly fuck ever cheering for the English football team.

xxp Kiwi friend said that she and fellow New Zealanders would always support Australia against England in cricket, rugby, football etc. despite the trans-Tasman Sea rivalry. Everyone hates the England!

everyone loves to see Ross Kemp crying like a fucking baby!

I have definitely moved from less nationalistic to more the longer I’ve lived here

Same here.

The current England football team is pretty hard to dislike though.

*must remember to book movers*

True, but I put that down to many of them being second-gen Irish.

Lots of England supporters also want the other four nations to do well, hence their irritation at this not being reciprocated even if they do eventually accept why this cannot be. OK yes I'm talking about myself (esp. in the past).

Hey, I support the England cricket team, I'm not all bad - though I stop short of using 'we' when talking about them, like Kerr does >:(

I don't like cricket, oh no

xp this isn’t really true if you examine it for more than a few seconds with many of these people, not to mention the weirdness of considering Ireland “one of the four nations” (not you, in general). As I’ve said itt before, all you have to do is not reciprocate or show discomfort about the idea of supporting England and you’ll get all manner of weird shit thrown at you.

idgaf about sport (i may have mentioned this before, i dunno) but i do enjoy watching england teams regularly choke on their own hubris

'false consciousness is a myth' i cry as i am bundled onto a plane and deported

Deported man voted Tory in GE 2019

Man who voted for Boris Johnson's Tories in General Election 2019 was one of the 17 deported to Jamaica last week. He had lived in the UK since he was 12 & has a wife and 2 kids here. pic.twitter.com/1QZBRuMRYq

— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) February 20, 2020

jesus :(

xp https://youtu.be/LpvrfdiBtko

Fortunately I am married to a self-hating Englishman

tbh I've yet to meet any nice English people who don't seem entirely apologetic about their country (London bubble I guess)

just saw another dumb-ass Boris voter on Sky News (Vic Haddock, wearing a Wolves hat) who currently has a river of effluent flowing through his living room and is saying "I've supported you Boris, now can you support me". Yeah of course because tory governments love huge infrastructure spends on improving flood defenses for thick fucking potato-headed cunts like you!

c'mon boris, come and look at the floods while getting constantly bodied by angry locals as you limply shove a mop around the floor of a sub-aqua carphone warehouse

he's never leaving number 10 again unless it's to go and sexually harass waitresses on a jolly to mustique funded by the multimillionaire founder of recyclethehomeless.biz

Death can't come quickly enough for the Telegraph tbh

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/20/brexit-britain-true-heir-ancient-greece-just-ask-elgin-marbles/

... supposed to be funny?!?!

if those desperately limp opening paragraphs are anything to go by, i've never been so glad to be locked out of an article

Even if you actually subscribe to the Telegraph that article still just fades into white after a few paragraphs.

The fading is a beautiful effect here, makes me wish it actually goes on for hundreds and hundreds of pages of drivel no-one will ever read

The pub note effect irl

bore, ffs

For some reason, in my work, I'm able to read all of it - not that I did, a quick skim was sufficient.