Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

Will and Katherine Krueger were on the West Wing Thing's latest episode - ssurprised that she hasn't pushed into the podcast world aside from one or two Chapo spots, she's good on the mic.

She has. She and Will do the VanderPod, your standard Vanderpump Rules rewatch cast(w/ guests like Brandy Jensen)

https://podtail.com/en/podcast/vanderpod-with-katherine-and-will/

on the subject of broader lefty pods, I've been enjoying QAnon Anonymous, which is pretty slick and polished for a show that follows (and mocks) the minutiae of contemporary conspiracy culture

I forgot about Vanderpod, but I mean in a more politics-oriented podcast.

The former Splinter people should start one. HamNo, Katherine and Libby Watson would be a good cast. (Except the obvious reason that 2/3 have real writing jobs.)

QAnon Anonymous

I like this one too, it's kind of like a goofy and very specific Citations Needed.

I haven't touched QA Anon but I am ashamed to admit I've listened to TrueAnon

I like TrueAnon, is that bad

Brace Belden isn't bad I just can't stand listening to him on Chapo so I've never given TrueAnon a shot.

I like the guy but I can totally see how he could get on someone's nerves.

Yup.

So err the chapos' debate stream apparently got up to 2.8m views??

Which is doubly funny if you know how amateurish their video content invariably is

no

people born in the 70s misread total channel views for concurrent views during the broadcast they were viewing...and it was everything pic.twitter.com/7tddBlIiQP

— Bij Alberta🍞📈 (@ByYourLogic) February 20, 2020

more evidence for my "gen xers is boomers" file

Ok that makes more sense

She also retweeted a joke about Gorka appearing on Chapo as if it was real.

The only one of these that I like is TrueAnon.

while i find true anon pretty obnoxious and don't listen to any of these podcasts (my gf listens to chapo so i catch some of it, she was into true anon for a little bit but stopped listening to it a while ago) i feel like it at least realizes that the splenetic and irreverent nature is the most appealing aspect of this kind of podcast. chapo eps often descend into an unsuccessful stand-up comedian playing wonk and an autodidact vulgar marxist ranting about late capitalism. whereas dunking on ross douthat is the core, the heart music

I agree with that. Their hyper earnest recent campaigning eps, while heartwarming in the sense that it exposes them once again as being huge sentimental softies, aren't really what I'm after, esp as a non-American listener who can't vote in a primary

We Americans are prone to accidentally thinking America is good despite ourselves

the Don Hughes intros have been a tonic in this regard

I wish the show was all media response, whether reading series or even the movie shows. Spoken-word Gawker is definitely their strongest suit.

Matt(and Chris) is a grad school dropout, so I don’t think “autodidact” applies, tho

https://youtu.be/h9GWjGd9Uso

A rather involved thread

playing my @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE themed Rimworld savegame... of course none of them have any practical survival skills and are riddled with drug obsessions and insomnia so we'll see how it goes @willmenaker @cushbomb @ByYourLogic @virgiltexas pic.twitter.com/1cKiDiRaOI

— Grace (@graveraves) February 29, 2020

I like the guy but I can totally see how he could get on someone's nerves.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-chapo-trap-house.html

This makes them sound a fuck of a lot scarier than they are imho

“‘Chapo Trap House,’ the entire Dirtbag Left, have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you’re cool,” said Amanda Marcotte, a liberal feminist writer for Salon. “It reminds me of when we pretended that ‘Jackass’ was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn’t bully you about not liking it.”

Can’t say this paints their critics in a great light either, especially contrasted with the dude at their show selling plasma to live.

I will not stand for Jackass revisionism.

This right here is some quality writing. Don't like what someone has to say? Make it sound like they're jacking off into their own mouth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER91oxxWsAAy2Q_.jpg

Apparently the author is old-money California aristocracy?

She's also right-wing Times editorial columnist Bari Weiss's girlfriend.

I saw that and thought it was a joke, jfc

that is news to me, and wtf

reminds me of when i was an editor for my college newspaper and would ‘interview’ my friends for quotes to stick in the articles

The constant evoking of “anger” and “rage” as somehow disqualifying a position is such a massive tell. It’s like seeing FB contacts I know post in ways to suggest they think being conflict-averse is somehow a political stance

when you're a memeber of the Comfortable Class, it most definitely is. pretty much their only stance.

i think the 'bernie bro' stuff is truer now than it was in 2015/6; the runaway popularity of chapo in the last 3 years has created this enormous long left-tail of unfunny young dudes trying out the mean style in replies but who aren't good at it

The constant evoking of “anger” and “rage” as somehow disqualifying a position is such a massive tell. It’s like seeing FB contacts I know post in ways to suggest they think being conflict-averse is somehow a political stance

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:04 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

That and her use of the word "Politesse."
No

How are all these serious journalists getting way with essentially writing about their Twitter replies

A digital Cletus Safari

here's some more detail about the author of that NYT article and her rich family

Ok this is funny. @NellieBowles—the author of this scandalized NYT article about the supposedly fake leftists (they make money!) of @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE leading the youngs to a bad, violent revolution—is a member of the oldest oligarch family in California.https://t.co/A0yCxM3IbN

— Yasha Levine (@yashalevine) February 29, 2020

never thought I’d read the phrase “San Francisco’s Debutante Ball”

no matter what you think of chapo it's pretty funny this is like the fourth time the writer of a hit piece on them has turned out to be a literal aristocrat.

How are all these serious journalists getting way with essentially writing about their Twitter replies

glad to see the nitwit branch of American feminism is so well rep'd among "serious journalists"

NYT piece is tot "window into the ALT-LEFT" vibe

morbs go on chapo

Here’s a question for the real headz: name off some of the best eps for converting a Chapo curious PMC (sorry)

We listened to the Matt/Amber/Virgil ep about the UK election on a road trip and she liked that. Then dipped into one of the recent live ones and didn’t catch a lot of the inside riffs. Obv live=not usually the best intro to a pod, particularly one like CtH

I’m a frequent enjoyer of the show, but I can’t say which classic eps would best fit the bill.

I mean, besides the Douthat reading

I played the Dinari scam one for an uninitiated friend and she enjoyed it.