If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

Harris was in a similar bind - leftists didn't believe she was a leftist, centrists were pissed at her for making overtures to leftists

well, Harris wasn't a leftist at all

I mean, even Bloomberg's current platform/website make some concessions toward the left compared to where he used to stand. It's just the way the wind is blowing.

he's letting us keep our memes, i think that's all though.

The moral of the story is that running in a crowded field of candidates is very difficult and it helps immensely if you ran a fairly successful one-on-one campaign in the previous election cycle, so that you enter the race with a large ready-made base of loyal voters, plus better name recognition than all but one other candidate (who, lucky for you, happens to be a lousy campaigner).

^^^

Yeah, in all honesty, even saying her campaign is a failure is quite weird. Most people running for president fail, she has had one of the 2-3 best campaigns this cycle. She is well situated to run again in four years.

for a bad campaigner she sure does bring a lot of people out to her rallies

but still, again, compared to bernie, not as much.

i'm not sure if there are stats on average crowd sizes at primary events, but my wild ass guess is that it would be something like

bernie
warren
pete?
biden
klobuchar
...
bloomberg (does he even hold events?)

bloomberg does hold events yes

cannot attest whether or not all attendees were bribed formally or informally

to be clear in case anyone misunderstood me, biden was the highest name recognition candidate in this field.

plus there's the vibe of each candidate's base:

bernie(youth, earnest, left)
warren (family game night, earnest, cautiously optimistic)
pete? (people who look forward to going to work)
biden (old, don't follow politics)
klobuchar (say "dooncha" on a daily basis)
...
bloomberg (people who are actively swayed by advertisements)

biden (old, don't follow politics)

let me revise this to old, and follow politics but haven't updated views in 10-20 years

(people who are actively swayed by advertisementsfree food)

I don't think Bloomberg has yet fed ~17% of the US voting population. Maybe the unfed ones are just anticipating the nice, big catered buffet to come.

What it comes down to for me is reluctance to vote for a 78-yr-old white man with a heart condition, no matter whom he picks for veep. And I tend to think his WH staff would suck.

if jesus could feed 5000 with a couple fish and some bread, than bloomberg can easily feed 17% of america by peeling off $600M of his fortune to give them a $10 coupon to taco bell

His WH staff would definitely suck. If he gets the nom I hope (I expect) that Bernie demolishes Trump, but I also expect a disappointingly similar disregard for career officials from a Sanders OMB/NSC/Cabinet

I know no one agrees with me but Warren is temperamentally a moderate and ideologically a progressive and SHE is who all the people dissatisfied with the choice of Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomberg should coalesce around, because for most Dem voters ideology doesn't mean much and they are trying to choose the KIND of person who they want to be President. I'm not saying it's likely to happen but all I'm saying is it's immensely frustrating to see the entire political class wringing itself dripping over "WHY isn't there a candidate who's NOT BERNIE and DOESN'T HAVE ALL THESE NEGATIVES" -- she's *right there*!

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, February 19, 2020 12:49 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah I don’t vote based on who I’d most want to have a beer with

reluctance to vote for a 78-yr-old white man with a heart condition, no matter whom he picks for veep

I suspect that if he had arrived at the point where he'd announced his pick for veep, your reluctance to vote for him would be overborne by circumstance.

need another poll for which candidate you'd most want to have a beer with

what if we don't like beer?

then you have to vote for mitt romney or donald trump

you're not required to drink the beer

more to the point, what if one doesn't like forced intimacy with strangers?

I would have a beer with 1980s bernie, nowadays it's likely against doctor's orders

The first anti-Bloomberg TV ad I can recall is coming from ... Tom Steyer. Steyer's campaign said it is spending "seven figures" in Super Tuesday states, and that this ad hitting Bloomberg over stop and frisk and more will start airing Monday https://t.co/fT48xICgHx

— Zach Montellaro (@ZachMontellaro) February 19, 2020

I am ordering you to have a nice vermont beer with bernie

these questions aren't supposed to have pleasant answers, this is the Bloomberg thread

Steyer v Bloomberg: whoever loses, we win

only thing that can stop a bad billionaire with an ad is a good billionaire with an ad

Welcome to the debates, Mike. We have a lot to catch up on about Barack Obama’s record. pic.twitter.com/bMYPLYwnfQ

— Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) (@JoeBiden) February 19, 2020

I suspect that if he had arrived at the point where he'd announced his pick for veep, your reluctance to vote for him would be overborne by circumstance.

― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday

Do we really have to go through this crap again?

i would have a heady topper with bernie

Steyer is such a well-meaning amateur. It's written all over him. He wants to do good things, but he is out of his field and out of his depth and if he were given the job he'd never figure out why he was failing so badly or what he should do about it until he'd squandered every bit of political capital he'd possessed upon arrival. All he's good for atm is bankrolling ads like that anti-Bloomberg one, which is badly made, but better than nothing.

that Biden ad is actually pretty good

i like how much steyer wants bernie to like him

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(not due to mark's post, just the 70 before it)

Drank my first beer since August on Sunday, ready for a beerbribe from Bloomberg.

Do we really have to go through this crap again?

It takes two to tango, Alfred. Your post I was responding to was pacing over old ground, so my response stayed on that old ground, too. No reason to be testy about it.

Easily the most terrifying campaign Instagram I've seen yet pic.twitter.com/AdenXtJDgy

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) February 19, 2020

It would be nice if a high percentage of money spent on high government office campaigns were directly put into the community jar.

It takes two to tango, Alfred. Your post I was responding to was pacing over old ground, so my response stayed on that old ground, too. No reason to be testy about it.

― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, February 19, 2020

You need new dance moves because this partner's responding to your old ones.

This is like that KiTH sketch about being stuck on a deserted island with Oscar Wilde.

Steyer v Bloomberg: whoever loses, we win

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:48 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

steyer is prob my third choice lol

There has only been one person ever elected US president who was as politically inexperienced as Steyer is. Guess who.

is it james a. garfield