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what's your fiesta name, though?

Basically this practice sounds vaguely racist to me

uh

Let me reassure you; it isn't

I think it does carry some weird cultural baggage but I don't think it's implicitly racist

Idk it was/would’ve been weird if in the English half of the day someone called Josué Joshua, what even is that

As someone with a name that is spelled the same but pronounced differently in French and English and grew up attending an Acadian school, I can't relate to any of this at all.

My Spanish name is Don Soto.

this is def not a thing in uk language classes iirc

xp that's the other cultural weirdness -- people come up with anglicized versions of their names all the time, although it's a lot less common now than it used to be

my dad used to work with someone who was never anything but Charlie at work and Carlos at home

everyone went with variants of their real first names but in until spanish 4 people went for the lols and so there was Raúl (me) and jota D (JD, for Jack Daniels) and Nacho and etc.

I am filing my French citizenship application this week and as part of that you can ask to have your name officially Frenchisized and so the loltemptation is strong again, for Jacques-Strappes and the like

My Spanish name is President Um...somebody

yeah, my school used spanish names in spanish class too, and i went to middle/high school in the 00s

btw the Bloombito parody account is a Puerto Rican Staten Island resident who began it during his mayoralty

they made an offer to coopt her recently; she refused

tbh it would have been amazing if Amy Klobuchar got up there and said her fourth grade spanish class name was Nacho

Solidarity w Bloombito poster

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critical support for the cryptocommunists who make up 20% of the american population

my dad used to work with someone who was never anything but Charlie at work and Carlos at home

there's a lot of Hmong people in the area who were given names that are difficult for non-Asians to pronounce so they just give themselves names like "Elvis", it's pretty badass imo

this is def not a thing in uk language classes iirc

There were multiple Johns in my freshman Spanish class, so there was already a Juan by the time I had to choose. I went with Esteban because I thought it'd be fun to have the same Spanish name as my best friend Steve (who was in a different class). Steve and I soon drifted apart, but I was Esteban until graduation.

tempted to think that at least 5% of that 20% are simply ppl who wish he weren't old and white tbh

This conversation....is deeply fascinating to me.

I reluctantly went with Daniel and then spent several years kicking myself after realizing that Federico actually contained my entire goddamn real name.

I remember a new EFL teacher in China objecting to the practice of students picking English names, however as names do not work the same in English as they do in Chinese and getting tones wrong mangles Chinese names into incomprehensibility, he had to give in within a week.

I also remember a student called Václav in Prague who had chosen to be known as 'Vince' in class - the actual Anglicization of his given name should be Wenceslas, quite disappointing that he didn't go with that.

hello, "Santiago" here

I reluctantly went with Daniel and then spent several years kicking myself after realizing that Federico actually contained my entire goddamn real name.

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pleasure to meet you feder

"Jose... Cuervo?"

"Present!"

Yeah it's a bit too trivial to be straight-up racist but it was def weird.

The underlying assumption is that an American high school classroom is by default presumed to be full of boring old Matthews and Jennifers and Heathers, so it needs to be spiced up with Rositas and Marios for more ethnic flava.

At the same time, lots of earnest white ppl were praising the US for being a "melting pot" that accepted all the wretched refuse of teeming shores etc. etc., and where you're judged on the content of your character etc. etc.

And of course if you happened to be in a school that was already plenty diverse, the exercise was especially weird. I knew people with given names like Tuan and Hung-Sook, whose parents changed them to Vernon or Audrey on arrival in the US, only to get to Honors French class and find they were expected to go by Serge or Marie.

roberto here (my middle name + the spanish "o")

i have debate fever. i am ready to watch bloomberg be an asshole and my favored candidates yell at him in public

as an ESL teacher in china i encountered lots of edwards and bellas (twilight was popular), and names like snake, and erm, 'clitty'.

Idk it was/would’ve been weird if in the English half of the day someone called Josué Joshua, what even is that

Half the day? It was one period out of the school day, so 45 minutes tops.

They also do this at the Concordia Language Villages: http://www.concordialanguagevillages.org/

wait back up

"clitty"? was this short for... something?

I used to keep a list of the best names - Legend, Loony, Adolf, Tweety, also we had some a couple of years back called 'Deadpool' and 'W.D. Gaster'

I think silby meant if someone who was named José from birth was called Josh in any non-Spanish language class

maybe if he was in spain and taking an english class?

I know but the point of math class isn't to immerse the student in English, so why would changing the student's name even be on the table?

(xpost voodoo chili OTM)

My math name was Obtuse iirc.

and tbh I do remember a couple classmates in high school spanish who were latina (and good if not fluent in conversational spanish) and it was kind of awkward when we were "choosing spanish class names" and the teacher kind of did this "yeeeeeah" thing as they rolled their eyes

Hah, yeah. we had that too: "So, Maria Consuelo Álvarez-Delgado, what would you like your 'Spanish name' to be?"

This is a pleasant distraction from clusterflulection

did we cover this already: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Bernie-Sanders-California-poll-Democratic-primary-15067265.php

kind of off topic, but i guess we could look into it

i have debate fever

pourrr me some bubbly!

who's gonna win? who's gonna lose?

I would be down with Bernie poisoning all the other candidates.

DJP in elementary and middle school I was in an immersion program where we spent half the day learning in Spanish, including math and science. (Math switched to English and social studies to Spanish in middle school)

i hope it's one of those debates where the audience is not allowed to clap, but every once in a while someone gets such a good zinger in that a few rowdy observers can't help but cheer. if the audience is allowed to cheer all the time, that could be dangerous because bloomberg is serving hors d'oeuvres and that could cause about 30% of democratic voters to erupt into spontaneous applause for him.

didn't trump pay people to clap for him during the early GOP debates? or am i confusing it with all the times he paid for a crowd before he was able to draw one on his own?

he paid many of the people who were in the crowd at his campaign launch when he infamously arrived via slow motion escalator

He paid that part of the debate crowd comprised of women Bill Clinton slept with

Our president. Did that.