Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Re: Warren, I thought this was an interesting article on her foreign policy: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/sasha-baker-elizabeth-warren-foreign-policy/

It gets at some of the problems with her candidacy, the way that trying to keep ties to the establishment while agreeing 90% with the Sanders camp leaves everyone a little unsure of her. I get the worries about her being written off, but at the same time I find it a little silly that “erasure” is the buzzword - she got endorsed by the NYTimes! And in the media’s defense, disappointing results for a 2nd/3rd place contender are less of a story than total collapse of a front-runner or sudden surge of an also-ran.

Fuckin guy did it again

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrat-pete-buttigieg-overstated-pledges-support-black-leaders/story?id=69053705

When you're doing something completely ineffectual, you've got to keep doing it until it works.

Amy Klobuchar reacts to Pete Buttigieg knocking her for not recalling the Mexican president's name: "When that happened, for what it's worth, I had been in the Senate all day. … I would say to the mayor, this isn't like a game of 'Jeopardy!'" #cnntownhall https://t.co/S9S8IYLXb7 pic.twitter.com/q1VrxptfPv

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) February 19, 2020

Whoa Amy, don't whip your whole arsenal out at once!

She's right in one respect, that presidents have an elaborate and extensive support structure to keep them informed of whatever facts they need to understand when making decisions. Instantly recalling the names of world leaders on demand is not a critical talent presidents to master. There's always someone available to brief them about whatever they want to know.

A more hazardous task when serving the Klobuchar administration, of course.

omg its real. it's 100% real!!!! https://t.co/CZFeCUOWq1 pic.twitter.com/2pwXoXdi40

— Brett Banditelli 🚫✂️ (@banditelli) February 19, 2020

she really is a disaster huh

jfc

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrat-pete-buttigieg-overstated-pledges-support-black-leaders/story?id=69053705

looool

I linked that yesterday but it really is galling that this fuckin guy keeps doing this seemingly consequence free

'Hi my name is Amy and my favorite kind of tacos are (affects exaggerated latinx accent) Orrrrtega.'

I was at an event last week where someone from very near Minnesota was speaking and there was strong passive-aggressive Amy energy with some similar attitudes.

extreme Amy energy in this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyGsKOzEVE

at this point we've probably a three-way tie for who is a bigger asshole to staff amongst the candidates between Trump Klobbo & Bloompsberg

I linked that yesterday but it really is galling that this fuckin guy keeps doing this seemingly consequence free

"Can I have a meeting at your restaurant?"
"Sure."
"THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDORSEMENT"
"wait I-"
"BLACK PEOPLE LOVE PETE, SEE"
"you just had a meeting here-"
"BUTTIGIEG: DOWN WITH THE BROWN"
"okay you done overstepped"

black people waking up in the morning now and checking the news to see if they somehow endorsed a campaign yesterday without their knowledge

As if it even needs to be said, I just have to say that it's truly pathetic that there are Democrats vying for the presidency in 2020 whose attitude wrt courting non-white voters is on par with my attitude wrt cleaning a toilet. 'Ugh...I guess have to.'

some black people talked to Pete, ergo they endorse him; that's how it works

(Trump burrito bowl pic: "I love Hispanics!")

I've been trying to concentrate on work but my brain keeps returning to "but when I was in fourth grade Spanish" and then I start cracking up

DJP I see you have typed both the words "Pete" and "Buttigieg" today and thank you for your endorsement

loooool

The taking of "foreign" names in language classes was always so cringe. My friend Miles was in French and took the name "Kilometres" and everybody laughed but it was only funny for like two days and that was in 1981.

my German names were awesome (Wolfgang, Siegfried)

haha I was Ulf

I never had a teacher give us “Spanish names” in 11 years of Spanish classes

It was SOP at my high school, both Spanish and French classes.

i was Andrés in 9th and 10th grade Spanish. kinda bummed that before that, we went through four years of required German and never got names assigned.

I have a name that easily translates to any european language to I just rolled with that

but yeah, picking a new name in language class cloud be a little off now that I think about it and I'm now getting x3ni j4rdin "what set you with" vibes

I don't remember what my Spanish name was. I only took it for one year.

We didn't have nearly that much latitude. My deadname had a common variant in nearly every language, so that's what I got.

¡Me llamo Diego! I'm quite positive that I was also bringing powerful Peggy Hill energy while trying to speak Spanish in Argentina last month.

I do remember my first semester Spanish teacher called himself "Matias" and, after I transferred out of his first-year class into second-year because I was burning through the material, he asked me if I'd be interested in getting a cup of coffee sometime. (I said no. I was 18 at the time and no longer his student but still: dude, what are you doing, no)

I guess if I stretch my memory some white people with common European first names would get called the Spanish cognate by my teachers but it wasn’t “their Spanish name”. NB for grades 1-8 I was in a partial Spanish immersion program and my classes were heavy on native or heritage Spanish speakers

i remember the biggest delinquent in my 9th grade Spanish class got to be Nacho, of which he was inordinately proud. a real Stand by Me moment. I was Sergio...man, I can barely speak ten words of Spanish and yet somehow I still remember that.

! Thanks evol j, I was also Sergio

Basically this practice sounds vaguely racist to me

Mucho excitedo para el debatero tonighto! Que necesitamos to gango up on el Berño or elsero todos los everyone will gango up on mi.

— Miguel Bloombito (@ElBloombito) February 19, 2020

http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=08202007

what's your fiesta name, though?

Basically this practice sounds vaguely racist to me

uh

Let me reassure you; it isn't

I think it does carry some weird cultural baggage but I don't think it's implicitly racist

Idk it was/would’ve been weird if in the English half of the day someone called Josué Joshua, what even is that

As someone with a name that is spelled the same but pronounced differently in French and English and grew up attending an Acadian school, I can't relate to any of this at all.

My Spanish name is Don Soto.

this is def not a thing in uk language classes iirc

xp that's the other cultural weirdness -- people come up with anglicized versions of their names all the time, although it's a lot less common now than it used to be

my dad used to work with someone who was never anything but Charlie at work and Carlos at home

everyone went with variants of their real first names but in until spanish 4 people went for the lols and so there was Raúl (me) and jota D (JD, for Jack Daniels) and Nacho and etc.

I am filing my French citizenship application this week and as part of that you can ask to have your name officially Frenchisized and so the loltemptation is strong again, for Jacques-Strappes and the like