If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

I think they’ll end up rallying around Pete, once people have an opportunity to see and hear Bloomberg, rather than just the commercial versions of him that he’s been able to push up until now

Beto probably doesn't have anything going on, I bet they could pull him out of his jam room.

But then again, man people make really bad decisions, so who tf knows

i see we're at the hurry up and panic about something that hasn't happened yet stage of the primary... again

y'all are gonna have such whiplash by november

You fucking people watch Chris Matthews or some shit

...nuh uh

i don't have the strength

https://i.ibb.co/zQpLhFC/bloom.png

the creepy thing is how uniform the reasoning is with every bloomberg person i've encountered in the wild - 100% of the time it's "I'm not crazy about the guy but the fact is Bloomberg is the ONLY person who can beat Trump," and then maybe a "the dems need to unite to get the Cheeto out of the White House" and maybe a "Bloomberg has so much money he's going to carpetbomb America with ads" and almost always a "he's richer than Trump and knows how to get under his skin"

afaict it's not bots. i don't live in a super tuesday state so i haven't seen a single ad for him. i'm convinced there's some josie and the pussycats (2001) style subliminal messaging ensuring that every resistance dem on twitter repeats these statements ad nauseam

"know how to get under Trump's skin"

indeed, a secret known only to rare few

if only someone could figure out how to make Donald Trump mad

You fucking people watch Chris Matthews or some shit

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 18, 2020 5:54 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think you're the only person on this thread who repeatedly references watching MSNBC?

(I just read Twitter too much.)

afaict it's not bots.

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afaict most human beings these days would probably fail a turing test.

The very notion of 'a Bloomberg person' existing makes my brain hemorrhage and then I die. I just flat-out die. And so now I'm dead. Hope you're happy.

I think you're the only person on this thread who repeatedly references watching MSNBC?

(I just read Twitter too much.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 7:40 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago)

It's shorthand. MSNBC and certain parts of the Twitter hinterland are synonymous. I don't get freaking out about Bloomberg -- yet.

bloomberg is obv a horrific person but I’m not terribly concerned with him winning the nomination. He just doesn’t have a constituency. I think whatever polling numbers he’s pulling down right now which places him at best a distant second is probably his ceiling.

this weekend Nevada votes and he’s not even competing there. Then South Carolina. Then super Tuesday. What is his best case scenario after that? Hope that all the moderates drop out and he becomes the only choice for the anti-Bernie wing?

If he can run a close second and Bernie fails to win an outright majority, he might end up the consensus choice in a brokered convention. That seems more likely if Biden continues to underperform.

viral clip today shows Blooms calling an abstract trans person "it"

at one point he also says "progressive, whatever that is"

his best case is hoping the DNC gives him good boy points in a brokered convention (good boy points can be purchased at the main menu if you don't feel like doing the daily quests)

xps

if brokered-convention scenario unfolds look at the bright side: Democratic Party, done

Brokered convention that chooses a squishy moderate instead of Bernie or Warren would justify however many billions he spends in two years without a wealth tax.

yeah it'll be great. we'll all get super unified and build a new party from the ashes of the old dysfunctional one, and we'll agree with one another on all the essentials and become an efficiently functioning progressive party. should be super smooth

xp

couldn't be worse and i'm not even kidding a lil bit

It would be the first brokered Dem convention since we switched to the primary system, but sure, maybe fox news is right

I don't think it'll happen unless they need one to fuck Bernie over

That seems to be Trump's view.

538 still has it at 40% chance

Silver needs clicks.

Should I find myself depressed/worried about how lockstep I am with Morbs right now Y/N?

a little

An issue with Bloomberg is he has resources to outlast the other candidates in the moderate lane (Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar). Between Sanders and Warren, there aren't enough voters in the progressive lane for a party majority, unless some of the moderates endorse them over Bloomberg.

yeah it'll be great. we'll all get super unified and build a new party from the ashes of the old dysfunctional one, and we'll agree with one another on all the essentials and become an efficiently functioning progressive party. should be super smooth

xp

anyone who thinks our issues here can ultimately be reduced to ‘the Democratic Party’ is secretly a huge optimist

Also let’s ensure that none of people who voted in the primaries back when we had an old party get to vote in the primaries for the new party, because they did the wrong thing when it was the old party

― iatee, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:53 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

is this referring to something that happened somewhere or are you just making up scenarios to get angry about

isn't making up scenarios to get angry about the point of this thread

otm

or to imagine scenarios requiring Richard Nixon's mordant commentary.

idk 3/5 national polls released today have him #2, he's the only centrist with momentum right now, leading in several ST states, has infinite money

i don't think he'll end up with the nom but eyes shouldn't be rolled at the prospect like they have been itt

sorry for rolling my eyes at the long-weekend-long catastrophizing of this thread and every other politics thread on this board and the wider internet

Butts

he might end up the consensus choice in a brokered convention.

imo, this is probably his best chance, unless lightning strikes several of the remaining candidates. He's pretty clearly hoping to be the leading 'moderate' when the convention rolls around, and Bernie has a low enough delegate count he can leverage Bernie's weakness into his own nomination in a brokered convention.

iow, he's an elderly multi-billionaire playing a long shot, but he can't think of anything else his money could buy him that he'd like better than being president, so he's pushing a mass of chips on the table and letting the wheel spin. after all, what could he lose, besides money he doesn't need for anything that's more important to him?

You don’t have to be concerned about one specific bad scenario, there are actually lots of them. I think the increasing chances of this going to convention are good reason to be pretty pessimistic of our shot in November regardless. I don’t think it matters who actually gets the nomination after a convention, there’s not gonna be party unity behind the winner.

oh for god's sake, "brokered conventions", this isn't even political discussion anymore you fuckers are writing fanfic. if you're going to insist on this sort of crap then i'm going to start posting my bloomberg/biden ship fic in this thread

that would be an improvement

Then Joe, innocently running his sinewy cords of love gently up the side of Mike's calloused neck, coyly asked for $5

I don’t think it matters who actually gets the nomination after a convention, there’s not gonna be party unity behind the winner.

― iatee, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this feels unnecessarily pessimistic to me. i think most dems will be happy to have a candidate to beat trump with.

also if bernie's the nominee, the bros will be in the tent pissing out for a change

oh for god's sake, "brokered conventions", this isn't even political discussion anymore you fuckers are writing fanfic.

Bloomberg's strategy obviously has very little to do with practical presidential politics, as defined by any kind of politics that has succeeded in the past century, yet he is spending hundreds of millions of dollars out of his own pocket pursuing that strategy.

Personally, I have no belief his current strategy will succeed in securing the nomination for himself, but there doesn't seem to me to be any viable path he could pursue to arrive at the convention with the nomination sewn up (other than those lightning strikes I mentioned), so what do you think he's up to, if not playing a long shot for a brokered convention? Or does he have no strategy at all besides spending carloads of money and crossing his fingers for luck?

I don’t think it matters who actually gets the nomination after a convention, there’s not gonna be party unity behind the winner.

― iatee, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:00 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this feels unnecessarily pessimistic to me. i think most dems will be happy to have a candidate to beat trump with.