If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

tulsi gabbard vs mike bloomberg

― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:28 PM (twenty-three minutes ago)

i'm actually not sure who i'd pick in that poll -- they're both horrible for completely different reasons

true but it's Gabbard without a second thought

I might take Jeb Bush over Bloomberg

Good Eric Levitz piece:

Maybe Bloomberg’s money can bend our political system to his will; or maybe no amount of advertisements can convince Rust Belt swing voters to support a historically uncharismatic candidate who disdains their “gray matter.” Maybe president Bloomberg would use his awesome, unaccountable financial power to get sweeping climate legislation through the Senate; or maybe he’ll use it to gut the social safety net. Maybe casting our lot with our team’s racist, misogynist, instinctually authoritarian billionaire will save our democracy by keeping the ethnonationalist right out of power just long enough for its voting base to die off; or maybe doing so will extinguish the possibility of achieving genuine popular self-rule in the United States, as Bloomberg’s success inspires a series of super-rich imitators until we all become the subjects of Supreme Leader Bezos.

All we know is that we do not know. And if rallying behind the better of two plutocrats isn’t even guaranteed to “work,” on its own terms — if, to the contrary, there are many reasons to believe it would fail — why on Earth would we make that bet? Why roll the dice on beneficent oligarchy when social democracy looks like (at least) as safe a gamble?

If Jeb! is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

would clap

This is bad. Why couldn’t the center rally around kamala or someone?

They should resurrect one of those zombie candidates if they need to oppose bernie so bad.

If he died today

Keep going, I need happy thoughts today.

I think they’ll end up rallying around Pete, once people have an opportunity to see and hear Bloomberg, rather than just the commercial versions of him that he’s been able to push up until now

Beto probably doesn't have anything going on, I bet they could pull him out of his jam room.

But then again, man people make really bad decisions, so who tf knows

i see we're at the hurry up and panic about something that hasn't happened yet stage of the primary... again

y'all are gonna have such whiplash by november

You fucking people watch Chris Matthews or some shit

...nuh uh

i don't have the strength

https://i.ibb.co/zQpLhFC/bloom.png

the creepy thing is how uniform the reasoning is with every bloomberg person i've encountered in the wild - 100% of the time it's "I'm not crazy about the guy but the fact is Bloomberg is the ONLY person who can beat Trump," and then maybe a "the dems need to unite to get the Cheeto out of the White House" and maybe a "Bloomberg has so much money he's going to carpetbomb America with ads" and almost always a "he's richer than Trump and knows how to get under his skin"

afaict it's not bots. i don't live in a super tuesday state so i haven't seen a single ad for him. i'm convinced there's some josie and the pussycats (2001) style subliminal messaging ensuring that every resistance dem on twitter repeats these statements ad nauseam

"know how to get under Trump's skin"

indeed, a secret known only to rare few

if only someone could figure out how to make Donald Trump mad

You fucking people watch Chris Matthews or some shit

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 18, 2020 5:54 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think you're the only person on this thread who repeatedly references watching MSNBC?

(I just read Twitter too much.)

afaict it's not bots.

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afaict most human beings these days would probably fail a turing test.

The very notion of 'a Bloomberg person' existing makes my brain hemorrhage and then I die. I just flat-out die. And so now I'm dead. Hope you're happy.

I think you're the only person on this thread who repeatedly references watching MSNBC?

(I just read Twitter too much.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 7:40 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago)

It's shorthand. MSNBC and certain parts of the Twitter hinterland are synonymous. I don't get freaking out about Bloomberg -- yet.

bloomberg is obv a horrific person but I’m not terribly concerned with him winning the nomination. He just doesn’t have a constituency. I think whatever polling numbers he’s pulling down right now which places him at best a distant second is probably his ceiling.

this weekend Nevada votes and he’s not even competing there. Then South Carolina. Then super Tuesday. What is his best case scenario after that? Hope that all the moderates drop out and he becomes the only choice for the anti-Bernie wing?

If he can run a close second and Bernie fails to win an outright majority, he might end up the consensus choice in a brokered convention. That seems more likely if Biden continues to underperform.

viral clip today shows Blooms calling an abstract trans person "it"

at one point he also says "progressive, whatever that is"

his best case is hoping the DNC gives him good boy points in a brokered convention (good boy points can be purchased at the main menu if you don't feel like doing the daily quests)

xps

if brokered-convention scenario unfolds look at the bright side: Democratic Party, done

Brokered convention that chooses a squishy moderate instead of Bernie or Warren would justify however many billions he spends in two years without a wealth tax.

yeah it'll be great. we'll all get super unified and build a new party from the ashes of the old dysfunctional one, and we'll agree with one another on all the essentials and become an efficiently functioning progressive party. should be super smooth

xp

couldn't be worse and i'm not even kidding a lil bit

It would be the first brokered Dem convention since we switched to the primary system, but sure, maybe fox news is right

I don't think it'll happen unless they need one to fuck Bernie over

That seems to be Trump's view.

538 still has it at 40% chance

Silver needs clicks.

Should I find myself depressed/worried about how lockstep I am with Morbs right now Y/N?

a little

An issue with Bloomberg is he has resources to outlast the other candidates in the moderate lane (Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar). Between Sanders and Warren, there aren't enough voters in the progressive lane for a party majority, unless some of the moderates endorse them over Bloomberg.

yeah it'll be great. we'll all get super unified and build a new party from the ashes of the old dysfunctional one, and we'll agree with one another on all the essentials and become an efficiently functioning progressive party. should be super smooth

xp

anyone who thinks our issues here can ultimately be reduced to ‘the Democratic Party’ is secretly a huge optimist

Also let’s ensure that none of people who voted in the primaries back when we had an old party get to vote in the primaries for the new party, because they did the wrong thing when it was the old party

― iatee, Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:53 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

is this referring to something that happened somewhere or are you just making up scenarios to get angry about

isn't making up scenarios to get angry about the point of this thread

otm

or to imagine scenarios requiring Richard Nixon's mordant commentary.

idk 3/5 national polls released today have him #2, he's the only centrist with momentum right now, leading in several ST states, has infinite money

i don't think he'll end up with the nom but eyes shouldn't be rolled at the prospect like they have been itt

sorry for rolling my eyes at the long-weekend-long catastrophizing of this thread and every other politics thread on this board and the wider internet

Butts