bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

History is written by the, er, losers?

xxp That is a great post! (signed, a consumer)

xp

lol no, but trying to say the electorate largely rejected their manifesto in a harsh as fuck FPTP arsekicking in a Brexit election is bullshit, 10 million is a whole lot of electorate,

"and it's also clear that 'having opinions online' is not great praxis"

erm point of order having opinions online taught me to speak up and be divisive at Lab party branch meetings thank you very much ;-)

A Lefty Oxford Prof writes
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-left-needs-to-campaign-for-social.html

xp do you just stand up and read out tweets from your phone?

Ouch.

I just get up and say "we're all going to die lol", everyone applauds, and now I'm a sitting MP

can't believe the electorate have chosen to reward a bastardisation of the one trv kvlt mantra 'lol we're all gonna die' but something something neoliberalism i guess

maybe I should have tried that instead of calling them a bunch of fucking guileless yellow-bellied melts!

Yes Andrew just the other month I was all like 'there is this great poster called dril (really the daddy of all big boy posters but that is neither here nor there), and he uttered the following pearl of wisdom on twitter via the 'shitpost' dialect, and it is as follows: "turning a big dial taht says "Racism" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right"

*Heckles from the Blairites*

Now what this means..'

this is how we wint

Ouch.

dril OTM there tbf

One of the few good things about there being another six fucking weeks of the Labour leadership contest is that it's impossible to for the press to make it interesting by this stage, so the headlines are the government tripping over its own feet: Dom and Boris at war about the BBC, Dom and Boris not at war about eugenics, Brexit not as settled as Boris says*, nothing being done about flooding, and the NHS facing a worse winter crisis next year.

* there's an extent to which this will be framed as "EU wriggles out of the deal", of course.

It's more than that, Cummings has taken the press's biscuits away and they've decided to go for him. They hate an over-mighty spin doctor and he's probably the worst we've had. It'll get worse over time.

has anyone on here read Superforecasting or wtf is was called?

I used to be a whizz with forecast doubles on the greyhounds

It’s not all bad news, only 90s kids will remember these guys

A year since the launch of Change UK. Not a single one of them still in Parliament 🤡 pic.twitter.com/5U8dfm1GTR

— Calum Sherwood (@CalumSSherwood) February 18, 2020

they've all got plenty of time for nandos now!

it really annoys me that Chris Leslie looks a bit like late comedy legend Gary Shandling in that pic.

Dazed has an interesting but completely unsurprising piece about the new female intake of MPs

It mentions Bell Ribeiro-Addy in passing, but I just recently realised she was working for Diane Abbott and opening all her hate mail and sending it to the police before being elected. Christ.

William Charlton, known as Billy, claimed his intention was to "protect the women of Sunderland from rape and sexual violence" when he spoke at planned demonstrations in Sunderland.

The marches, where Charlton spoke about "imported rapists" and equated "immigrants with rapists" were part of a campaign which was started after a woman told police she had been attacked by six foreign men in the city.

^^^^
one of Yack Yack's buddies up in court for possession of child porn and bestial porn.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/billy-charlton-accused-possessing-child-17768550?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

sure there's a perfectly racially pure explanation

he might have been doing some research for a book he's working on!

Posting itt cos no one gives a damn about the Brits (quite rightly imo)

@Santandave1 extended rendition of Black at #Brits2020 has me in tears. He did that, DAVE DID THAT! pic.twitter.com/dmdMfvtoAu

— ማነሽ እንትና (@outrageous_ting) February 18, 2020

Brits out.

I came here to say that ogmor, i want to have your babies

I actually did scroll back up to read that ogmor post, so ty for referencing it again Tracer. (I think I flipped past it at work).

I have never been an activist of anything (as you can tell by my posts, it would not suit me) and although currently a Labour member would probably be one of the people you mean? It’s so fucking hard, I went almost my whole life being disappointed or let down or crushed by politics and then 2017 gave us the cursed hope. Of course the comedown is brutal, of course the right hopes the left remains divided and picking at each other forever, of course sniping gives only momentary relief but doesn’t achieve anything.

I can’t be an involved party member for reasons but I’ve just joined a union and hope to do more in that area. What do you recommend?

Not that different from the current system apparently, except all EU migrants under this..

The magic number is 70 - that’s how many points are needed to apply for entry to UK. A skilled job offer & speaking English gets you 50 points. Job in a shortage occupation earns 20 points as does a £25k salary and a PhD in science.

— Danny Shaw (@DannyShawBBC) February 18, 2020

how many points do i need to get out?

overseas students can stay for 2 years after graduating without restrictions;

This will be a huge boost to the university sector.

has anyone on here read Superforecasting or wtf is was called?

yup, read it a few months ago (I think because I was exploring the mind of Cummings) but I can't remember that much detail about it. It's mostly about the author's Good Judgment Project - competition for amateur forecasters of world events that came from his psychology research. The best amateur predictors are much much better than government advisors and (lol obvs) pundits. Goes into the cognitive biases and situational pressures that make people guess badly I think.

It's fine - not crazy or fash - but it is one of those pop-psych books that could just be a long-ish article. Just google Philip Tetlock and the Good Judgement Project and you'll get everything you need to know.

state of these cnuts

In 2017 the EU showed on their own slide that a Canada type FTA was the only available relationship for the UK. Now they say it’s not on offer after all. @MichelBarnier what’s changed? pic.twitter.com/ve8zeAqbSZ

— No.10 Press Office (@Number10press) February 18, 2020

how many points do i need to get out?

you can check out any time you like but you can never leave iirc

Jon Trickett has a piece in Tribune that addresses the democratic deficit. (Could have done without the mention of Mélenchon though).

Fucking tell the fascist, Nadia

This, from a forty-something has-been, is pure bitterness because people told his red-brown alliance where to get off.

Next stop, irrelevance. https://t.co/nYSDEv52BO

— Nadia Whittome MP (@NadiaWhittomeMP) February 18, 2020

I'm a superforecaster myself, I reckon this new points system is going to cause cataclysmic recruitment crisises in the agricultural, care, manufacturing, foodservice sectors. Great work lads.

You'll likely see more use of seasonal worker schemes like this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48820573

Which generally means the work gets done but the people doing it have few / no rights.

what is the impetus to come here to work with a beating stick and no carrot set-up?

what is the impetus to come here to work with a beating stick and no carrot set-up?

Tons of people already come here to work in a context where they have no real rights - terrible pay by UK standards is still seen as desirable in other places

Trebles all round!

on radio they said that temp farmworkers were exempt (whilst pointing out the careworkers aren't and how fucked that is)

minister who was on was keen on pointing out how much they'd reduced the requirements recently. so they now have a points system that doesn't keep as many people out... (so why bother?)

Tons of people already come here to work in a context where they have no real rights - terrible pay by UK standards is still seen as desirable in other places

Bingo. Under such conditions, might as well stretch not-slavery to its near-breaking point.

Which I'm sure is the intention.

Well, Brexit does mean Brexit after all.

it's sad some of these jobs especially like in the agricultural/care sector are not given more respect and pay because they much more essential than say financial services or hypocritical fucking melt MP's claiming their TV licenses on expenses.

tbf the ultimate aim is to have British people working in near slavery, so get out yer Union Jacks and start waving them.

yeah we're heading full-tilt for an american-style at-will-employment corporate hellscape, strap in folks because if you hurt yourself your medical bills are gonna be astronomical