If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

so we're forgetting how many people probably died in PR due to Trump and his own FEMA's abandonment?. like, no, he hasn't remotely approximated the death toll of the post 9/11 wars, but he does have blood on his hands

I don't think anyone suggested that he doesn't "have blood on his hands," but until Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo it will be all but impossible for a President to be as evil as Dubya.

in a world where george w. bush could legally run for a third term none of this would have happened because barack obama would already be serving his third term as president

I really want the Presidency to shrink in power

Electing Warren or Sanders should work, as Republicans would suddenly discover that they now oppose the notion of an unchecked (and uncheckable) unitary executive

How does Truman win?

Hiroshima / Nagasaki presumably?

Don't we usually say Iraq killed, like, ten times that?

korea

Seriously?

"It has been sometimes referred to in the English-speaking world as "The Forgotten War" or "The Unknown War" because of the lack of public attention it received both during and after the war, relative to the global scale of World War II, which preceded it, and the subsequent angst of the Vietnam War, which succeeded it.[65][66]"

But it can't be blamed on Truman anymore than WWI can be blamed on Wilson or WWII on Roosevelt. So I still don't get it. The ones with real blood on their hands, the war- and coupmongerers, at least since WWII, would be Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, W Bush in my view.

Today, big mike is sad that people are mean to him online

we may never have a billionaire prez who handles criticism well

thread has gotten even stupider in last 24 hours, kudos

Like any good billionaire, I assume his attitude wrt most things on earth (including, say, the presidency) is 'that thing is basically mine because I've decided I want to have it'. Encountering any kind of resistance from within that contextual bubble would be enough to set anyone's bottom lip a-quivering. 'B-but...don't you understand? I waaaant it!'

Bloomberg 2020: DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!

"Berniebros ratioing Bloomberg" - politics really has sunk into the gutter.

look if we've established that money is political speech then we must accept that, actually, the online poors have no right to point out that mike bloomberg is a total piece of shit

yeah i fully support bullying the rich and powerful online. it's unlikely to get you arrested and appears to actually get to (some of) them. it's not much, but until further notice, it's m/l all we got.

This anti-Berniebro ad really is ridiculous, though. Not quite Willie Horton/Daisy material.

I fully support pairing the rich with some fava beans and a nice chianti but that's slightly more likely to get you arrested.

never forget: these people are, or at least move in the same circles as the people who lament safe spaces and perceived fragility as the number one threat to our constitutional republic

there's part of me that takes a certain grim satisfaction in bloomberg's concerted attempt to torch that entire wing of the democratic party

of course that attempt will never be as fully successful as i'd like it to be

the 'gotcha'ing is also getting tired. i suspect JF wasn't merely saying "Trump sucks because I get in more fights on FB now"

― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, February 16, 2020 10:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

Thank you. Yes! I wasn't talking about small ball shit. I was talking about America creating a new international adversary every week, about bible beaters occupying the judicial branch at every level, about creating concentration camps on our own soil, about the office of the presidency acquiring unbridled power because the congress lays down. I'm talking about America becoming a failed state. I think that's a rather significant and credible worry.

What is it about "data nerd" in his Twitter bio that is making me want to die?

xp -- again, were you conscious during the W years?

Dubya's era was full of many evils even beyond the death count, yes, not least nominating John Ashcroft, or signing into law the Patriot Act, but he also did keep Karl Rove out of the NSC meetings and also didn't attack the free press daily (even after journalists were murdered), blew enough racist dogwhistles that the KKK and other white supremacist factions felt confident enough to return to the mainstream and violently intimidate minorities, as well as protesters, not to mention rolling back protections for the LGBTQ community. he has used the Judiciary branch of government to go after his enemies (like Nixon) as well as obstruct investigations into his own crimes.

like, nobody is arguing that Dubya wasn't a nightmare to live through (I more than remember the misery, it was just about my entire 20s), and I don't think anybody here is doing that stupid Twitter revisionism that Dubya "wasn't that bad". but there is a stark difference between the 'norms' that Dubya changed and Trump actively inspiring racial violence.

i don't see why it's a big deal to say "hey guys maybe we shouldn't undersell the whole fact that Trump is wildly expediting the destruction of our democracy".

but I'm done yammering about this, because like Shakey said, these rhetorical debates aren't helping anything. if anything they make us think Trump's admin isn't *that bad*

anyone whose takeaway from the "aberration vs. culmination" debate is to say that "culmination" means that trump is basically ok is hereby strongly urged to reconsider that interpretation

like maybe "our democracy" wasn't never what you thought it was.

Most definitely a data nerd. BS in EE, head of system development at Salomon in the 70s. In finance, "the bloomberg" terminal has become as much a synecdoche as Kleenex or Xerox. Even the competing Thomson Reuters terminal is sometimes called "the bloomberg".

https://shop.mikebloomberg.com/collections/apparel/products/in-god-we-trust-unisex-womens-salt-tee

gag

"The Bloomberg Terminal" -- every where I've worked, it's had its own tiny office, almost like a little shrine. "The Bloomberg Terminal" is said with a certain hint of reverence.

it's a dumb, anachronistic machine that looks like it hasn't updated its interface since War Games came out, complete with a deliberately confusing typewriter

xp: At $24,000 / yr ($20 K in multiples), it certainly earns more than the interns and probably the cleaning staff.

What is it about "data nerd" in his Twitter bio that is making me want to die?

I sort of feel that way about anyone who self-describes as a "nerd" tbh. Like, you are one of the 10 richest people in the world, not a bullied middle schooler.

If currently bullied middle schoolers want to reclaim "nerd", they have my support otoh.

I really get annoyed that nowadays when you say you're a nerd the first question is "oh cool what comix u liek?"

yesterday i gave my spouse an impromptu and unrequested hour-long lecture on uk telerecording practices of the 1960s, if you want to argue that i somehow don't qualify as whatever a "nerd" is supposed to be go for it but i'm not going to stop self-describing as one

This shit seems so overblown to me. He'd need Biden to drop out before Super Tuesday to even have a prayer.

Shitty Bloomberg fact of the day seems like a feature that's going to keep going for a while

Rush, ime, the qualifications mostly came down to being unpopular. I realize it's 100% my own issue but it was an insult I hated (maybe it's not this anymore idk) and I just feel a little cringey about the way people re-embrace that framing as a cute self-descriptor, but far more so when they are humblebragging billionaires. Obv self-describe how you want; lots of things make me cringe.

This shit seems so overblown to me

otm

but social media is one giant catastrophizing brain

Rush, ime, the qualifications mostly came down to being unpopular. I realize it's 100% my own issue but it was an insult I hated (maybe it's not this anymore idk) and I just feel a little cringey about the way people re-embrace that framing as a cute self-descriptor, but far more so when they are humblebragging billionaires. Obv self-describe how you want; lots of things make me cringe.

― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r)

so kind of a politics of slur-reclaiming thing? i can get that. personally i'm happy to reclaim that particular slur, but i respect that not everybody feels that way about it.

The problem with 'nerd' is the same as wrapping your entire identity up in any one thing - like building a sports bar in your basement so you can watch the game without your kids being in your presence or becoming that guy who flies to Vegas for the porn convention ever year.

lol

but social media is one giant catastrophizing brain

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, February 17, 2020 5:17 PM (six minutes ago)

very otm wrt political opinions

I'm not taking Bloomberg seriously (yet) just because the Beltway press needs a Biden replacement.

Seriously fuck this Bloomberg shit. I’m not giving that guy any free advertising. Not that anyone cares what I say but no.

otm

Bloomberg has the same negatives as Biden (old, conservative, bad public speaker), maybe it's wishful thinking but I feel like his numbers are at their peak right now. everyone I know who's taking him seriously knows virtually nothing about him, only that he pisses Trump off

The problem with 'nerd' is the same as wrapping your entire identity up in any one thing

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z)

hi, have i mentioned i'm trans? :)