Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

It's almost as if victories cause American voters to look differently at candidates.

Bloomberg's awareness is obv rising because of his massive amounts of TV and internet TV ads; him polling high is straight name recognition, like Biden was getting before anyone actually had to vote or caucus

I really like the idea of a dual role bc the veep spot is good media narrative, treasury plays to her formidable strengths, and because fuck👏those👏norms👏

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, February 15, 2020 3:52 AM (three hours ago)

otm

agree w/ fish moon thingie arrow that p much anyone else in the running is likely to offer her VP, but nobody else is likely to offer her as much influence as Sanders at all, let alone as VP/Treasury

man alive, Florida doesnt vote for another BLOODY FIVE WEEKS

I still think Bloomps is gonna do well in the polls up to the moment his prospective voters actually have to hear him speak so yes in that sense it'll be exactly like Biden

we should mass-retweet this account to Floridians

Stop y frisko es onlyo racista if ít happeños en el Raciso región del Francero. Othero placeros es justo sparklingo oppressioño.

— Miguel Bloombito (@ElBloombito) February 13, 2020

there's a debate between now and super Tuesday, right? Bloompie likely to fuck that up proper, there's no way Bernie will resist laying into him

my people:
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Pete-Buttigieg-San-Francisco-Queers-Against-Pete-15057323.php

some dumb shit someone just said to me on FB: " I have heard this week from someone who is a supposed political insider and has friends in high places that Tulsi Gabbard would be his VP pick. That sickens me. I am not a Bernie fan, but Tulsi is reprehensible- the things she's said about Obama and being a commentator for Fox. That also says a lot about Bernie. That would be a disaster. Apparently they are really close." This is obviously (to me) complete BS but I think things like this are being circulated by people trying to damage his campaign. Bernie is not a fucking idiot.

yeah that seems nuts to me too but that New Republic article jaymc posted up thread contains this:

Whenever the question is posed on social media, many of Sanders’s most fervent supporters regularly offer two names: Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator who now co-chairs the Sanders campaign and has been one of his most prominent surrogates, and Representative Tulsi Gabbard, who, lest we forget, is still running for the nomination herself. Both are women of color, and both are closer to Sanders politically than almost anyone else who easily comes to mind.

which seems just plain wrong to me also, but i guess people do really think that?

I haven't seen a single Bernie supporter push Gabbard

lol

If by the grace of God Bernie won the nom, made Tulsi instead of Warren his VP, and gave Cornel West and Andrew Yang cabinet positions instead of AOC, he would be the most inspiring and impactful president in our history

— Anna Khachiyan (@annakhachiyan) February 14, 2020

Two consecutive days now when Tulsi has fielded a question from town hall attendees asking if she’ll please be Bernie’s VP!

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) February 9, 2020

Paging Stacey Abrams

the comments on that thread are 2/3 "lol wut" 1/3 just as stupid
xpost

Abrams has been the ilx favorite if I'm not mistaken

Doesn't the VP pick rarely come from people who were running to be Pres in the same pack of candidates? Or am I misremembering?

i wouldn't read too much into this but:

https://www.axios.com/mike-bloomberg-stacey-abrams-georgia-event-aa438c63-ca3f-4672-907e-94f93a94722a.html

^month old btw

I wrote about Bernie Sanders and choosing a vice president. https://t.co/asiOK5onWZ

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) February 14, 2020

review of the runners and riders

tammy baldwin seems like the best pick for the general election although as he says the implications for the senate are potentially bad.

he doesn't mention castro. is it worse to endorse warren than be warren from bernie's POV?

please Bernie, dude, no on Tulsi. just NO. i've pleasantly impressed w his campaign instincts this go round, so hopefully he's knows better than to fuck around with a narcissistic grifter like Gabbard.

there's no way Bernie would pick Gabbard

I'm fine with Castro, but he's been dead four years.

no pros, all cons - she brings nothing to the ticket, doesn't expand his base of support, sizable number of Democrats hate her, has no qualifications Bernie doesn't already have, etc.

xps

Doesn't the VP pick rarely come from people who were running to be Pres in the same pack of candidates? Or am I misremembering?

― Position Position, Friday, February 14, 2020 5:23 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk if it's super common but it's def not rare. reagan/bush, obama/biden, im sure there are others.

kerry/edwards

i assume there's data on this, but i figure i'll ask a bunch of people whose opinions i mostly don't respect: does picking a VP candidate on the basis they will bring a state/region actually work?

JFK/LBJ

i feel like besides Bush/Cheney it's been concurrent primary candidates almost exclusively for decades now?

i think what's rare is when they don't actually kind of (or very much) hate each other, eg Obama/ Biden

I've seen people argue both ways - doesn't really matter on a state to state basis then there's
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/04/26/this-research-shows-that-vice-presidential-candidates-actually-do-win-votes-in-their-home-states/

i hope i don't regret saying this, but if anyone wants 34c for free then you should know that bloomberg is leading the betting markets

BLOOMBERG PULLS AHEAD OF BERNIE IN BETTING MARKETS pic.twitter.com/bLNNN9k4Dz

— Adam Ozimek (@ModeledBehavior) February 14, 2020

Just checking (in regard to the terrible lack of power of a VP) - am I the only one remembering that Bernie had an actual heart attack last year?

a lot of people have heart attacks

it's fine, he has four baboon hearts now

These are the days of miracle and wonder

The boy in the bubble and the Bernie with a baboon heart

A loose affiliation of hundredaires and thousandaires

(Sorry, stopping now)

Bernie was running a good campaign with three chambers of his heart pumping away and now he’s blasting to the lead on all four cylinders

I heard a rumor he had a nitro boost button installed too

irl giggle @ rhymin' puffin

DeBlasio to endorse Bernie. This should be a fun year!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/14/de-blasio-to-endorse-sanders-115138

deblasio endorsement is proof the establishment is trying to take him down

why do people care about the betting markets again?

i feel like besides Bush/Cheney it's been concurrent primary candidates almost exclusively for decades now?

i think what's rare is when they don't actually kind of (or very much) hate each other, eg Obama/ Biden

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, February 14, 2020 5:48 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

from what i can gather: pence, kaine, palin, cheney, lieberman, kemp, gore, quayle, bentsen

yeah, I wd send deBlasio to campaign in American Samoa maybe

why do people care about the betting markets again?

from what i can gather: pence, kaine, palin, cheney, lieberman, kemp, gore, quayle, bentsen

life of me*

he did get a single vote at the DNC for some reason

Gore ran in '88. I remember that Ed Koch endorsed him bcz Israel. (In some circles Gore's nickname was "the senator from Likud.")

which circles were those