to form babby, or not to form babby

just doing stuff like going to the movies or the zoo or we read in bed every night and snuggle, reading the Narnia books

that should be 'for whom?'

(jk)

for who the board lols

silby, at which point did you realize that you were just trolling everyone, but you were going to do it anyway?

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, February 14, 2020 11:00 AM (four minutes ago)

I'm too mad to be trolling

let us be the judge of that

it's a criterion of trolling that the troll isn't mad but everyone else is

if you want babby's soul
you gotta pay the troll toll

Roses are red, violets are blue
trollz do it for the lulz, what about you?

seriously do you guys not remember when ronan and the lex discussed children

fwiw I think children are wonderful people and all the positive qualities parents in this thread have rhapsodized about are otm

El Tomboto at 1:09 14 Feb 20

seriously do you guys not remember when ronan and the lex discussed children

I do not! but I bet it was good.

I do remember tuomas thinking it was ok to jackoff with a baby in the room

if you didn't exist, but had the option to, would you want to? or would you decide "nah, too risky"

lol I think that's the one thing he's been clear on

nah he hasn't

i mean yes plenty of parents are irresponsible in their attitudes here, but i think the general human belief that life is a good thing to have and a good thing to gift is a silly thing to sniff at. like you need to work harder than "what if it's bad tho". not even Buddhists believe that. and being mad at people for having that general human belief is ... not the high moral ground he thinks it is.

being alive is my best option but on balance I don't care for it

at least, not today I don't

I should really be doing my job but I've completely forgotten what it is at this point

don't care for it

your attitude toward life is unusual and parents can be forgiven for not reasoning based on it

can they?????

why should I, personally, forgive my parents

whom I love and have been almost exclusively good to me

and yet had me

half expecting silby to shortly be confronted by an angry magical whirlwind lecturing him on being such an ingrate

I’m grateful for most everything my parents did for me after I was born, but I’m furious I’m alive

OK, my dear silby. I will accept your premise that it should be vitally important for each potential parent to accept that the outcome of having a child includes a potential for that child to experience grievous harm, which same potential cannot be fulfilled if no child is forthcoming.

I have a couple of questions for you. Because the decision to bring a child into existence is binary and can only result in two positions, child or no child, how do you envision this vital acceptance as directing their ultimate decision? What philosophical guidance does it lend or practical application might it have to their decision?

Do not feel you must be brief in your answer. Be as comprehensive in your answer as you feel you require for us to understand your position.

why should I, personally, forgive my parents

different question based on unique circumstances

I mean ,most parents of our age group kind of just had kids on autopilot. I don't think decisions were really consciously made.

Aimless no fair telling me to post longer you're retired

half expecting silby to shortly be confronted by an angry magical whirlwind lecturing him on being such an ingrate

No, I think a bumbling but good-hearted angel needs to take him on a tour of how his idyllic home town would look had he not been born.

Waah sometimes I feel bad, and my body needs calories waah

"I'm furious I'm alive" is a cogent statement of a fact, but it is not a cogent statement of a philosophy.

granny blindsiding the soylent folks itt

GD literally jump in a lake and hope a utilitarian walks by to fish you out

Having surveyed the available evidence, on balance for you, I think not to form babby would be the way to go.

No shit Sherlock

mod, please change thread title to "silby's basilisk"

You first ya pathetic whiny bitch

No shit, Sherlock

Same advice holds for him.

GD I hope you get depression

granny forgot the mike showalter tags

Cronos had kids and he ate them. Admittedly, he was chthonian god, but we should all take a lesson from this.

Luna didn’t exist but she def posted on this board fyi

Medea, ftw.

no life light burned inside luna. no, luna reflected the life light of another.

mod, please change thread title to "silby's basilisk"

*babbyless

fuck

“People”—Geralt turned his head—“like to invent monsters and monstrosities. Then they seem less monstrous themselves.”

I think there's a particular part of the human experience -- which isn't for everyone -- that is only experienced by raising a kid. I think some people articulate it incredibly poorly, or think that the experience and knowledge they gain by raising a child (see: every man who now thinks they have empathy for women after having a daughter) is something only gained through parenthood. But the best parents I know have a relationship with their children that shows mutual growth.

We're not, at least most of us aren't, in societies where children are responsible for their parents after they reach a certain age, like Yerac mentioned. But we're beings with relatively brief lives, and most of us are going to diminish with age in some way, to the extent we might be child-like again as we approach senility. Looking at childhood and being elderly as somehow not the norm, and the plateau of productive adulthood as the normal human state, reduces our communal empathy

there are very few real rugged individualists out there and if forming your family means forming a babby for you, then by all means...

I think there's a particular part of the human experience -- which isn't for everyone -- that is only experienced by raising a kid.

my conclusion from knowing parents is that this cannot be explained adequately using words and thus there's a divide btwn babby havers and non babby havers that can never truly be bridged, hence these endless arguments

A well-phrased point, Simon.

Which is why I didn't see my experience reflected in Yerac's comment (that most parents in her demographic just drifted into parenting "on autopilot" without conscious decision making). It may seem like that because you're not in their heads, and they may not be able to articulate it in a way you'll understand.

For me and for my wife - and most of my embabbied family and friends - there was a LOT of conscious discussion and a lot of serious thought. your babby-makers may vary?

babby-formers, sorry