If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

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If Bernie ran as a third party in this hypothetical, I probably would vote for him, but in a Trump v. Bloomberg scenario, ums is right: get over ourselves.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

o ye of little imagination, you've got actual left-wing reps you can contact now y'know

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link

a third party run by a Dem/indie in 2020 would put Trump in the White House. Do some of you understand American politics?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

and some of us have been on weekly (after a period of daily) phone calls to our congressional offices since January 2017, thank you

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link

In this scenario neither party would deserve yr vote ever again IMHO, gotta start from something

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:46 (four years ago) link

in the remote chance as of February 2020 that Bloomberg becomes the nominee,w hen would be the time to angrily demand a third option?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:48 (four years ago) link

If electing a democratic socialist gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her. If electing a moderate Democrat gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her. If electing an oligarch and egomaniac with untold billions gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her.

I can vote for him or her AND do what you suggest.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link

I'm personally about 99.9% sure a Mini Mike run would mean four more years of Trump anyway

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

but, yeah, I know, these threads are meant for performative angst.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

Sorry for all the angst, I think it's the gaping wound where my wisdom tooth used to be.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

Folks, if you have babby, insist on getting those fuckers yanked out as early as possible.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link

I think that is a fair argument to make, I just wonder how many people at his rallies also agree with that

― iatee, Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:12 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

and judicial nominations, probably the most important factor after foreign policy when I decide whether to vote for a presidential candidate. also, my vote doesn’t really count thanks to the electoral college, which is why like morbs I’ll only be pulling the lever for bernie, out of the remaining candidates who have a chance

k3vin k., Friday, 14 February 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link

mike bloomberg wanted to put fingerprints on every social security card to keep people who are "illegal" from getting jobs so they wouldn't cross the border pic.twitter.com/2B034g05aa

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) February 14, 2020

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 14 February 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

On the plus side, he seems...extremely beatable to me

Bruh 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/qT5q3kIonQ

— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) February 14, 2020

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 02:42 (four years ago) link

I would put it this way: he’s better than Trump, but he’s the absolute worst non-Trump outcome I can imagine, and it’s really depressing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link

But I bet a friend he wouldn’t win a single dem primary.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link

Four weeks ago everybody was lamenting Biden as being the inevitable nominee and now he's just lonely sending pointless "gimme fi' dollah" emails and about to ass out.

Now, everybody on my FB wall suddenly seems convinced Bloomberg has it, and apparently here it's being taken seriously enough that this thread exists. He has a spending advantage out the ass but well as of yet there ain't nothing to react to other than him polling better slightly now and opting out of the early caucus/primaries.

We are always terrible at predicting shit in these threads and have been for over four years so like idk, y'all like constantly being worked up?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 February 2020 03:10 (four years ago) link

It's like every thread pivots from

-remote possibility of thing
-consideration of said thing happening
-becoming convinced it will happen
-getting in huge fights over hypothetical thing that hasn't happened and may never

It's like me talking about my sex life

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 February 2020 03:13 (four years ago) link

Well the bet I’ve made so far is that he will flame out once the initial shock and awe ad campaign wears off and the ridiculousness of him as a candidate catches up with him. But he’s spending unprecedented amounts of money.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

the ridiculousness of him as a candidate catches up with him.

this argument loses a certain amount of its force when you realize his sharpest competitors for the mushy moderate middle are Fading Former Veep Joe Biden, South Bend Indiana Mayor Pete Butigeig and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 14 February 2020 03:26 (four years ago) link

He’s abysmally bad. Klobuchar and Pete have ten times his charisma.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link

Where's this idea that Bernie would run third parry coming from? That doesn't seem particularly likely?

Bloomberg on the other hand seems guaranteed to run third party if Bernie gets the nomination

anvil, Friday, 14 February 2020 04:10 (four years ago) link

two probably dumb questions:

a) are pundits actually supporting bloomberg specifically now, or is this just people Discoursing several months into the maybe-future; the big story seemed to be that it was 15-year-old memers named @RickAndMortysBalls, and people who are vaguely against bernie but not pro-anyone yet
b) is it at all plausible his reputation is bad enough in new york city that trump might actually win (probably not, but there's this lingering doubt)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:13 (four years ago) link

today ILX decided which Republican billionaire who has 0 delegates at the moment it would vote for in November

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:19 (four years ago) link

Morbs....otm?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link

thomas fucking friedman is actually supporting bloomberg iirc. (i don't think his endorsement actually carries any weight with anyone, but)

mookieproof, Friday, 14 February 2020 04:25 (four years ago) link

that column was a lot funnier than this thread

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:30 (four years ago) link

thomas friedman is actually built out of parts recycled from a 1994 bloomberg terminal

uncrut gems (crüt), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:33 (four years ago) link

man I really backed the wrong horse’s ass in that old ‘Who’s Worst: Brooks, Friedman, or Douthat’ thread

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 14 February 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link

I think we'll all be changing our tune after Bloomberg gets around to donating to our wives' museums and feeding us fancy cheese steak sandwiches.

https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1393653-Joseph-Delaney-Quote-Everyone-has-a-price.jpg

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

truly the best of us:

Happy Birthday Dr. Henry Kissinger – a wise statesman and good friend. pic.twitter.com/3jgQB64EVh

— Mike Bloomberg (@MikeBloomberg) May 27, 2015

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 14 February 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

TBF ol' Kissyface is also close personal friends with Hillz.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

so is Kissinger like 4’11”

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

dealing w/him is 911

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link

bloomberg is standing on kissinger's jabba the hutt-style tail to add extra height

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link

i googled HK's height (1.75m allegedly) and then MB's (1.73m ditto) and beside MB's it says "trending" lol

mark s, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

Yikes.

The degree to which Michael Bloomberg is using his fortune to fundamentally alter & manipulate U.S. politics to his personal advantage extends way beyond ads. I've worked against him, covered him as a journalist & worked with his top aides. Here’s their playbook: (1/17)

— Blake Zeff (@blakezeff) February 13, 2020

jaymc, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

This is why it's not just about "voters making choices".

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link

bloomberg is standing on kissinger's jabba the hutt-style tail to add extra height

― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara),

real lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

never thought I'd say this but I miss Howard Schultz

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

I saw 3 likes for a Bloomberg tweet in my timeline today. I might see if I can get in on some action too

anvil, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

Billionaires are fucking scary.

jmm, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

Look forward to the Bloomberg/Trump debates: Which Form Of Fascism Do You Prefer? Striped Shirt or Pure White? pic.twitter.com/5ziI1nMbBE

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) February 14, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

goddamn he is so corny

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

Never

flappy bird, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

are you or members of your community in danger of deportation? if so, I apologise. if not, tough titty

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

'I speak for the most vulnerable, those with the most immediate need, therefore all other viewpoints and concerns are petty and invalid.' This is precisely the line of reasoning that anti-abortion activists use to urge people who detest Donald Trump to vote for him anyway.

I am not going to write a fuckin personal essay here but to clarify, everyone in my immediate and extended family who was born before the mid '80s is a refugee. I have lived in New York City most of my life and Bloomberg was our mayor for more than a third of that time, during which I fit the description of "Male, minorities, 16-25" that he famously ordered xeroxed and handed out to all the cops. Add "Arabic speaking" to that, and infer what you will.

Now, I would be the first to concede that being repeatedly traumatized and violated by NYPD as a youth is but a minor inconvenience next to the imminent threat of deportation, both real and perceived (as a consequence of constant bullying and demonization by the president and his supporters).

But I demand a higher signal-to-noise ratio. What Bloomberg is running is another authoritarian disinformation campaign, keeping direct interaction with voters and other candidates to an absolute minimum minimum and exploiting fear of Donald Trump. You who detest him, he is banking on your willingness to vote for him anyway. I would play the long game by withholding my vote to insist on a future candidate who values democracy. And I don't see this as a privilege but a duty.

By the way, there is a theory floating around that the guy is doing this to keep Warren's wealth tax from his bank account, at a fraction of what that would cost him. I don't buy it but I do suspect he is even more motivated by self-interest than his competitors.

Deflatormouse, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

I am pretty sure the instant Trump got the nomination every billionaire in America had a long hard think about it

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link


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