If Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?

ums - that’s been my thinking about most of the shitty moderate candidates, and in a vacuum, if it was suddenly November and Bloomberg was the candidate, then I guess I could vote for him, certainly if I were in a competitive state. But in the context of this primary, where the reality of Bloomberg becoming the nominee almost certainly has to involve the party intervening and making deals to stop a grassroots movement for a progressive candidate, one who would be far better for endangered communities, well, that’s a tougher vote to cast. Acquiescing to Bloomberg buying the nomination would be the Democratic Party abandoning any principles that it has tried to claim and spitting on its base, and that’s not something I’d want to reward. Maybe I’d hold my nose and vote, but I don’t think I’d have the fortitude to do anything to try to get Bloomberg elected.

Anyway I’m maintaining my perhaps overly optimistic belief that his support will drop when he starts being visible beyond ads and appears in debates, and the party isn’t quite dumb enough to give him the nomination.

actually very much resent the presumption that I'm in some comfortable or privileged position because I would refuse to vote for Kodos over Kang?

are you or members of your community in danger of deportation? if so, I apologise. if not, tough titty

I realize it's just theoretical for me, but if were faced with that decision, there wouldn't be a decision. Unless I lived in New York or Mississippi or some state where the outcome were 100% guaranteed, I'd get out and vote for Bloomberg. (And maybe even if I did live in one of those states.) I can't even begin to imagine what new horrors Trump will move on to if he's validated by reelection. He's just qualitatively different than anybody he'll be facing in November.

"if I were faced"

As usual, ums otm and bringing the real to fronting fools like me. Gotta keep the focus on those with the most skin in the game.

Bloomberg, noted defender of minority rights

don't front like Trump's immigration and deportation policies aren't extreme

oh look this argument again, hurray!

and on a fourth thread!

I mean Bloomberg sucks! if he gets the nomination we're fucked, I honestly think Trump would love to kick the shit out of him

but there's no way Bloomberg would be negotiating with Laos to deport 10K Hmong people who have lived here for 20 years and pretending otherwise is silly

so if I can't hold my nose and fill in an oval with a number two pencil what the fuck good are my progressive values?

In the hypothetical where yer presented w this choice and yr reaction isn't to angrily demand a third option I think you're sort of insane sorry

what good would that do?

In the hypothetical where yer presented w this choice and yr reaction isn't to angrily demand a third option I think you're sort of insane sorry

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.)

how would we angrily demand a third option?

If Bernie ran as a third party in this hypothetical, I probably would vote for him, but in a Trump v. Bloomberg scenario, ums is right: get over ourselves.

o ye of little imagination, you've got actual left-wing reps you can contact now y'know

a third party run by a Dem/indie in 2020 would put Trump in the White House. Do some of you understand American politics?

and some of us have been on weekly (after a period of daily) phone calls to our congressional offices since January 2017, thank you

In this scenario neither party would deserve yr vote ever again IMHO, gotta start from something

in the remote chance as of February 2020 that Bloomberg becomes the nominee,w hen would be the time to angrily demand a third option?

If electing a democratic socialist gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her. If electing a moderate Democrat gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her. If electing an oligarch and egomaniac with untold billions gets Trump out of the White House, I'd vote for him or her.

I can vote for him or her AND do what you suggest.

I'm personally about 99.9% sure a Mini Mike run would mean four more years of Trump anyway

but, yeah, I know, these threads are meant for performative angst.

If Bernie is the third party nominee against Bloomberg and Trump, will you vote for him in November?

Sorry for all the angst, I think it's the gaping wound where my wisdom tooth used to be.

Folks, if you have babby, insist on getting those fuckers yanked out as early as possible.

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I think that is a fair argument to make, I just wonder how many people at his rallies also agree with that

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and judicial nominations, probably the most important factor after foreign policy when I decide whether to vote for a presidential candidate. also, my vote doesn’t really count thanks to the electoral college, which is why like morbs I’ll only be pulling the lever for bernie, out of the remaining candidates who have a chance

mike bloomberg wanted to put fingerprints on every social security card to keep people who are "illegal" from getting jobs so they wouldn't cross the border pic.twitter.com/2B034g05aa

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) February 14, 2020

On the plus side, he seems...extremely beatable to me

Bruh 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/qT5q3kIonQ

— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) February 14, 2020

I would put it this way: he’s better than Trump, but he’s the absolute worst non-Trump outcome I can imagine, and it’s really depressing.

But I bet a friend he wouldn’t win a single dem primary.

Four weeks ago everybody was lamenting Biden as being the inevitable nominee and now he's just lonely sending pointless "gimme fi' dollah" emails and about to ass out.

Now, everybody on my FB wall suddenly seems convinced Bloomberg has it, and apparently here it's being taken seriously enough that this thread exists. He has a spending advantage out the ass but well as of yet there ain't nothing to react to other than him polling better slightly now and opting out of the early caucus/primaries.

We are always terrible at predicting shit in these threads and have been for over four years so like idk, y'all like constantly being worked up?

It's like every thread pivots from

-remote possibility of thing
-consideration of said thing happening
-becoming convinced it will happen
-getting in huge fights over hypothetical thing that hasn't happened and may never

It's like me talking about my sex life

Well the bet I’ve made so far is that he will flame out once the initial shock and awe ad campaign wears off and the ridiculousness of him as a candidate catches up with him. But he’s spending unprecedented amounts of money.

the ridiculousness of him as a candidate catches up with him.

this argument loses a certain amount of its force when you realize his sharpest competitors for the mushy moderate middle are Fading Former Veep Joe Biden, South Bend Indiana Mayor Pete Butigeig and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota.

He’s abysmally bad. Klobuchar and Pete have ten times his charisma.

Where's this idea that Bernie would run third parry coming from? That doesn't seem particularly likely?

Bloomberg on the other hand seems guaranteed to run third party if Bernie gets the nomination

two probably dumb questions:

a) are pundits actually supporting bloomberg specifically now, or is this just people Discoursing several months into the maybe-future; the big story seemed to be that it was 15-year-old memers named @RickAndMortysBalls, and people who are vaguely against bernie but not pro-anyone yet
b) is it at all plausible his reputation is bad enough in new york city that trump might actually win (probably not, but there's this lingering doubt)

today ILX decided which Republican billionaire who has 0 delegates at the moment it would vote for in November

Morbs....otm?

thomas fucking friedman is actually supporting bloomberg iirc. (i don't think his endorsement actually carries any weight with anyone, but)

that column was a lot funnier than this thread

thomas friedman is actually built out of parts recycled from a 1994 bloomberg terminal

bloomberg was a major donor to friedman's wife's new museum opening this spring

man I really backed the wrong horse’s ass in that old ‘Who’s Worst: Brooks, Friedman, or Douthat’ thread

I think we'll all be changing our tune after Bloomberg gets around to donating to our wives' museums and feeding us fancy cheese steak sandwiches.

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truly the best of us:

Happy Birthday Dr. Henry Kissinger – a wise statesman and good friend. pic.twitter.com/3jgQB64EVh

— Mike Bloomberg (@MikeBloomberg) May 27, 2015

TBF ol' Kissyface is also close personal friends with Hillz.

so is Kissinger like 4’11”

dealing w/him is 911