lol I just got an e-mail from my mom about how "impressive" this mailer she received from Bloomberg is
rmde. fuckin boomers.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
"make it all better" gtfo
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
yeah I actually FP'd that post
― sleeve, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
If Bloomberg did succeed in buying the nomination, that's about the best opening you could ask for to launch a populist-left third party run imho
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
if bloomberg wins the nom and sanders launches a third-party run, that could cripple leftist politics in america for decades, no matter how morally justifiable his choice to run would be.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
Yeah sadly true I think
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
which hey, another Republican/ Democrat win-win!!!
Worth a shot anyway, seeing as nominating Bloomberg would prove that the Dems are beyond saving
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
nb if I lived swing state I would probably vote Bloomberg
But without a pathway to primarying him in 2024 that would doom us to 8 years of shit
Y'all just have more faith in Bloomberg to be anything more than a less vulgar more efficient trump. I don't buy his act.
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
ok so then I won't vote for Bloomberg. and then Trump will win. So we'll be stuck with the more vulgar less efficient Bloomberg.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
NY billionaire Epstein-associated sex pests
I just want to go back to this because it's a great phrase
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
xxp
no, that's exactly what he's gonna be. but he's less likely than trump to start a nuclear war, and more likely to take 'meaningful' steps against climate change.
obviously, he's still terrible, and as a ny resident i would strongly consider voting third party if he's the nominee.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
Xp for four years instead of 8. That's my entire point. If Bloomberg promised to drop out or drop dead after 4 years it'd be different.
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
I still think it's our duty to vote for the better candidate without worrying about what's gonna happen 8 years down the road, especially when there are certain issues which absolutely can not wait that long. if the DNC nominates Bloomberg then they clearly did not learn the lesson from 2016, so then who's gonna save us in 2024? at the end of the day I'd take Bloomberg over Trump. I mean I'd rather it be Jared Fogle than either of those two, but if this is the choice we have....
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
the point is "get Trump out"
you might as well be my 77yo MSNBC-addict friend
a third-party run, that could cripple leftist politics in america for decades
lol as opposed to the robust US leftism of the last 40 years
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link
I think a Sanders presidency being within reach and getting swatted down by a fake-Dem billionaire like Bloomberg would indeed be far more damaging than the last 40 years of neoliberal compromisers, yes.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
Bloomberg is equally likely to get us into a war with Iran.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
milo, goddamn you for starting this signature ilx panicpoll
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link
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yeah, i mean, it's finally on the verge of making a bit of a comeback.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
yeah we don't really need to worry about the hypothetical until like mid-March
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
close this thread plz
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
Bloomberg's the opposite of trump, he'd start a war with NK instead
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
to form 3rd party, or not form 3rd party
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
The SPUSA is available to absorb the DSUSA
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
I refuse to vote in this poll
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
If the poll is Mike Bloomberg is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for him in November?, will you vote in it in 4 days?
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
i'm voting for trump
― uncrut gems (crüt), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
not really
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:02 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
how irresponsible. state your reason:
- Not interested; felt vote wouldn't make a difference- Too busy or conflicting schedule- Illness or disability- Out of town or away from home- Registration problems- Users such as imago- Forgot to vote
― Evan, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link
Trump wins that's four more years of trump and then we reset, likely with a dem
Bloomberg wins that's 8 years of Bloomberg...
Or 12 (shudder). I think he has made it fairly clear that he's not going to let a thing like term limits stop him from staying in office?
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link
OP: Yes. From a consequentialist standpoint, the climate crisis dwarfs every other concern.
Sanders and Bloomberg (combined) have a 70% chance of the nomination on betting markets. It's likely the 2020 will assert the danger of plutocracy, or prove it.
― forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:48 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
at least he's fuckin old!
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
Republicans don't die before 102
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
anyone who is not in a group that is in danger of deportation, disenfranchisement or worse I kinda don't want to hear your bullshit about this, there are a number of terrible government actions that would stop, that harm real people in your communities
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
But he turned my city into Dubai
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
How franchised do you have too be before you can become disenfranchised
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/02/10/what-you-need-to-know-about-trump-plan-to-deport-hmong-lao-immigrants
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link
yeah and I'll be a pain in his ass during his Presidency to not be a fuck
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
i would not vote for Bloomberg in the primary of course, but also i'd vote for him over Trump every single time.
― omar little, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
Bloomberg sucks but there's nothing he would do that wouldn't be worse and more stupidly under Trump and there are many things that would stop that are actively hurting Americans right now
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
there are a number of terrible government actions that would stop
Citation needed. His record as mayor indicates that he doesn't have any qualms with violating civil rights and liberties.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link
i'm voting for trump― uncrut gems (crüt), Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:14 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinknot really― uncrut gems (crüt), Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:14 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― uncrut gems (crüt), Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:14 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
roller coaster of emotions you sent me on there
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
Bloomberg did win the Dixville vote y'know
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link
the literal one vote
If Bloomberg ends up winning the Democratic nomination against Trump, then it is because the voting public in the USA gave that outcome their seal of approval. No matter how awful we may find that, if it happens the preponderance of the nation's adult population made it happen, not just the DNC or RNC or some nefarious cabal. It would be a fairly accurate reflection on where we are politically rn.
And the only viable response would be to swim against that current, continue to work for what you believe in, and organize around making it happen. Because ideas die when people abandon them.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:10 PM (one minute ago)
Yeah, I think you are mistaking him for someone way less scary, like Howard Dean.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link
Bloomberg is not building a stupid fucking wall
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
neither is Trump
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
yes, but only one ballot. he's not worth committing fraud for
― ciderpress, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:00 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
you're right, and i'm being an edgelord imagining he would be identical when it comes to immigration and travel bans. but the thought of the next decade or more following a bloomberg win is enough to make me give up on anything ever getting better than it was before 2016 on a national level. and given his cozy reception from the establishment and the media, i'm worried he could be 80% as bad as trump and get none of the scrutiny. he's branding himself as the heroic anti-trump and he'll be lauded for whatever he does.
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link