Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

is that cheap or expensive to you?

that's canada pricing

the price of a Starbucks latte in Alberta.

Fuck Will Menaker

a latte is only $4.25 (canadian) at the bougie gentrification spot by my place

And every other white guy thinking 'intersectional' is something neoliberals say

that and a $1.50 will get you a bowl of praxis

the fact is there's no candidate that can appeal to both the left-wing of the party and the fearful olds/"moderates", and every candidate that's tried to do this has (mostly women, interestingly) has faltered

Otm imo. That imaginary candidate could take the party permanently to the left, and position it to destroy the Trump movement. But the olds/moderates are too stubborn for that to happen. They are going to be destroyed by the Sanders movement, and they are going to deserve it. Imo.

should be noted that minorities got shoved aside by the Ds with breathless ease during this go-around. at least Sanders might offer them some hope of helpful policies as opposed to 'everything was going fine until Trump arrived'. I hope some serious olive-branches are extended to that part of the party before November.

Jews and gays still minorities last time I checked but yes people of color and female candidates got the shaft

(altho even considering female candidates as a minority does not seem accurate)

If Sanders wins the nomination that's not going to be that much of a problem, no? He can sell himself as outside the system

anti-semitism in this country is going to go through the fucking roof if he gets the nomination

true. but you can't let that control what you do.

I believe we addressed that yesterday

been said a ton over the last couple of days, but second guessing oneself to strategically support the candidate most palatable to an imaginary other voter seems totally rampant at the present moment.

oh hey, tell that to every single person i know

culinary union declines to endorse anyone, probably ends biden officially

Warren is v much the "this could have been us" candidate for the stubborn boomers of the party

From the editorial board of the Las Vegas Sun:

Democrats see an urgent need to defeat Donald Trump and save our nation from an autocrat. We agree, which is why we’re endorsing Sen. Amy Klobuchar and former Vice President Joe Biden in the upcoming Nevada caucuses.

Maybe too much bad blood at this point, but if Bernie picked Liz that would be something to get me very excited.

man it's cool that bloomberg has spent the past decade giving 2 million dollars to every powerful person's charity he could find and now they all want him to be president

As a Union negotiator, I can tell you that I cannot wait until we have Medicare for All so we can focus on wages and working conditions instead of spending so much time, energy and resources negotiating over private healthcare. @BernieSanders

— Benjamin Dictor (@BenjaminDictor) February 13, 2020

^ that makes excellent sense. also, union-negotiated benefits can be taken away. government benefits are harder to take away.

it’s an absolutely absurd stance and I have to assume (or I’ll go fucking insane) that the rank & file split with leadership over this and that’s why they opted not to officially endorse anyone

The culinary union's healthcare plan is hot garbage - high out of pocket and high expense to the insured.

Rank and file Culinary 226 and UNITE Here members are spreading an open statement of support for Bernie Sanders and Medicare for All, as a revolt against leadership https://t.co/I2nqbueC15

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) February 13, 2020

who knows how many members that will end up representing though

So I hear AOC is saying it might be public option after all.

Sigh

she said that was the realistically the worst case for a sanders presidency (with m4a obviously being the best case). probably bad to actually say it like that because disingenuous centrists will spin it as "oh so bernie and pete aren't different at all" when that's clearly not the case

Sanders and Warren otoh.

Sigh

Best case scenario for Pete is everyone gets free fancy rhetoric pills

Fortunately Trump surrogates are keeping the conversation at a high level.

Allies of President Trump have sharply focused attention on the sexual identity of presidential contender Pete Buttigieg in recent days, questioning in stark terms whether Americans are ready for a gay candidate who kisses his husband onstage.

The attacks are prompting blunt responses from Buttigieg’s allies and even his Democratic rivals, who call the remarks inappropriate and offensive. The exchanges were ignited by radio host Rush Limbaugh, who received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump last week and who framed his comments as an ostensible analysis of how Democrats feel.

“They’re sitting there and they’re looking at Mayor Pete — a 37-year-old gay guy, mayor of South Bend, loves to kiss his husband on the debate stage. And they’re saying, okay, how’s this going to look, a 37-year-old gay guy kissing his husband onstage next to Mr. Man Donald Trump? What’s going to happen there?” Limbaugh said.

a 37-year-old gay guy kissing his husband onstage next to Mr. Man Donald Trump? What’s going to happen there?

worst slashfic setup ever

she said that was the realistically the worst case for a sanders presidency (with m4a obviously being the best case). probably bad to actually say it like that because disingenuous centrists will spin it as "oh so bernie and pete aren't different at all" when that's clearly not the case

work faster, throat cancer

Maybe too much bad blood at this point, but if Bernie picked Liz that would be something to get me very excited.

Liz would probably only leave the Senate for a position with real power

there was that story a bit ago that they were looking into a hybrid veep/treasury role for her.

My sense of Warren is that she has a definite agenda of mostly economic and tax policies she badly wants to make happen and if she could acquire more power to accomplish them by accepting a new position outside the Senate, she do it. However, her ability to influence policy by accepting VP under someone else would be very questionable. I think she'd demand some ironclad assurances to even consider it.

That sounds right.

VP is a shit job

Group got 2 million from Bloomberg in 2018. https://t.co/2M7HLBOlOi

— gatsby (@Grategatsby) February 14, 2020

I really like the idea of a dual role bc the veep spot is good media narrative, treasury plays to her formidable strengths, and because fuck👏those👏norms👏

Ford and Reagan discussed a "co-presidency" in the summer of '80.

I would wager it's unlikely to happen now but I'd love to be wrong xp

I never know whether to post in this thread or the Bernie thread, but Osita Nwanevu has a piece today that engages in some Bernie VP speculation: https://newrepublic.com/article/156576/hardest-decision-bernie-sanders-will-make-year

the sanders thread should be used for memes and japes imho

would charlie baker nom a republican to replace warren if she takes a cabinet position? he's a massachusetts republican, which is pretty far removed from a national republican.