Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

^^^

this is what I mean by space mountain. everybody in the dark, screaming and occasionally laughing, being hurled about, although hardly going faster than an average person can pedal on a bike

fun to observe as long as you aren't too invested and are in relatively good health

xp i do you hope you're right. the way i see it is more like the DNC and most of the media networks are actively doing whatever they can to stop sanders. and its quite possible they will rob him of it at the convention if he doesn't have the plurality. in particular i think Bloomberg may be angling for this scenario, either to be the nominee or a power broker who has split off enough delegates to deny him an outright win.

I'd bet money Bloomberg does not get any actual delegates

the DNC and most of the media networks are actively doing whatever they can to stop sanders

also: this reads like garden-variety conspiracy theorizing to me

i think bloomberg's plan is to inundate the super tuesday states with so much advertising that he outright starts winning on delegates going forward from there. i doubt he's planning on using inner party machinations to wrangle the nomination.

does bloomberg even have those connections in the wider party? my impression is he does not. he's a weirdo who used to be a republican. i think ppl are still remembering all the party support hillary clinton had but none of these nominees have that sort of relationship with the dnc not even biden who is the closest.

"actively doing what they can" is too much, but, yes, the networks are all WHEN WILL BLOOMBERG DROP IN

xp Sure but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not right. i mean do you really want to me post examples of highly prejudicial shit said daly on msnbc about bernie? or talk about the spin and mismanegemnt coming out of voter irregularities in Iowa?

No nobody wants you to post that.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/482607-klobuchar-we-need-to-build-a-big-tent-for-anti-abortion-democrats

Revising my vote in the moderate poll

Uncle Joe it is, I guess

msnbc

lol

ok well it applies to the nyt or wapo as well in slightly different manners. and a lot of people's politics are defined by cable news.

also here were no voters in Iowa, there were caucus-goers (there is a difference)

xps

voters would have had ballots, which could have been easily tabulated, verified and reported.

idk cable news is all just noise to me, I'm baffled that anybody lends credence to it or watches it with any seriousness (outside of Fox News which is obviously a huge bubble with genuine devotees)

Actually, we're finally getting evidence that MSNBC shapes Dem primary voter decisions:

https://newrepublic.com/article/156545/bernie-sanders-msnbc-problem

lol how can you pitch a big tent on 'abortion', the most black and white issue there is politically. this is this same bullshit I keep seeing people say, and it's because people think 'big tent' means 'shunning' possible voters with other views that don't toe the party line, but how the fuck do you 'shun' a voter as a politician? A politician will accept your vote even if you're a scientologist nazi elephant. It isn't like they could even refuse it if they wanted to.

this isn't a fuckin' economic plan with a wide scope of possibilities, lol, it's abortion. you're either pro-choice, or pro-life, and the 'middle' ground means being amenable to things like unnecessary state restrictions that make abortions much more difficult (if not impossible) to get which means you're already essentially pro-life, given how the GOP has weaponized this faux-middle ground.

shotgunned in the foot - we accept your concession, Klobs!

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i mean it's not that big of a tent if by opening it to lifers you push the choicers out of it

besides, do you really need a big tent? the GOP's tent is basically a used rubber

After last Friday’s Democratic debate, Chris Matthews waxed apoplectic about what electing a socialist could mean for America. “I have an attitude towards (Fidel) Castro,” he said. “I believe if Castro and the Reds had won the Cold War there would have been executions in Central Park, and I might have been one of the ones getting executed. And certain other people would be there cheering, OK?” Matthews’s colleagues pointed out that Sanders was more of a Danish type of socialist than a Castro type of socialist, but to little avail.

jfc

Matthews then stared at the camera for 10 minutes without moving

certain other people would be there cheering, OK?

can't say he's not self-aware

ok, here are the titles of the last several emails from Biden's campaign:

apologies
I need $5 for the final push
politely asking
I won't regret this ask
nothing left to say
emailing for $5 (John Kerry *on behalf* of Joe Biden)
exclusive campaign strategy for you (please read)
Final goal
sorry to bother you
If everyone who reads this gives me one dollar...
reaching out to you
emailing for $5
no regrets
please read and confirm
please read
I'm coming to you
are you on the record?
Thank you
re: tonight's results
in case you missed Joe's note (his HQ on his behalf)
will you vote for Joe in Florida?
Iowa was just the start. Now help me win the rest of the Democratic Primary.
This is my most important ask of you to date
I don't want to fall short
Gut punch
Need $5 to elect Joe Biden
please grant me this request
need your eyes on this ASAP
emailing for $5
need 5 from Orlando
please read this before tonight's debate
I fought like hell tonight
Tell us what you thought of last night's debate
Here's the truth:
I don't see your response
Two days left and I need your help
this email is critical
Did you see this?
humbly asking you
Let's get real
I'm coming to you directly
time is running out to pitch in $5
I'll be damned if I'm going to stand by and lose my country
We're just getting started
The truth about last night
It's important that you donate today.
please

Wow

8 of those from the last two days

and all shaped like early William Carlos Williams poems

i like reading this like a long rambling voicemail

I am going
to lose
the no-
mination

which will pro-
bably hurt
Robby Mook

Forgive me
he is delicious
so techie
so cold

lol

damn! no mention in those about what da fuck Joe Biden wants to do for you, the voter, except panhandle a couple of bucks off you

Only posting this 'cause it comes from the singer of Hatebreed, whose lyrics do not seem like the work of someone capable of metaphor.

Mayor Pete is like the band you never heard of that gets the huge opening slot on a tour (cause their label bought on) & all the sudden they have ads everywhere & write ups in big mags but you go to a show & never see 1 shirt of theirs in the crowd. #FakeBig #FollowTheMoney

— Jamey Jasta (@jameyjasta) February 12, 2020

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how can you just leave me standing
alone in a world that's so cold
need $5 from you
extremely urgent (for your eyes only)
where were you
really could use that $5 about now
if a picture paints a thousand words
let's be frank
needing $5 from <street address redacted>
beginning to think you're a fucking coward

This is what it sounds like
What Joes die

@ddayen

Joe Biden has never finished higher than 4th in any primary or caucus in 32 years of running for president

apparently this is not quite true -- he finished third in the 2008 delaware primary (after having dropped out)

ah so that's what he's doing wrong

That list is amazing.

Here's the truth:
I don't see your response

were these separate emails or just one?

separate

need 5 from Orlando

rofl

What was the “what was your response?” email about?

I have to get on this list

Sorry, I mean the I don't see your response email

lol I hadn't actually opened it.

apparently this was the body of the email (pretty boring tbh):

"Hey it’s Pete, Joe Biden’s Deputy Campaign Manager.

Here at campaign HQ, we’re hard at work forming our strategy for every state straight through the Democratic Convention.

To help form our plans, last week, the team sent out a poll to see if we can count on your vote in the upcoming primary election in Florida.

But, I just reviewed all of our responses, and your name was one of the few supporters I didn’t see listed."

sent u an ilx email neanderthal

Did you ask him for five dollars

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-queer-opposition-to-pete-buttigieg-explained

column reads in its entirety "He's a cop."