Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

looks like a giant walrus man has thrown his blubber behind bloomberg

But there is one candidate on the Democratic side who not only has a track record of supporting all those issues but also has the resources to build a machine big enough to take on the Trump machine.

This candidate also has the toughness to take on Trump, because while Trump was pretending to be a C.E.O. on the show “The Apprentice,” this candidate was actually building one of the most admired global companies as a real C.E.O.

This candidate is not cuddly, he is not always politically correct and he will not always tell you what you want to hear — or try to outbid you on how many free services he’ll give away. He’s made mistakes, especially around stop-and-frisk policing in New York City, which disproportionately targeted black and brown men and for which he recently apologized.

His mistakes, though, have to be weighed against a record of courageously speaking out and devoting enormous personal resources to virtually every progressive cause — gun control, abortion rights, climate change, Planned Parenthood, education reform for predominantly minority schools, affordable housing, income inequality and tax reform. And he has vowed as president to focus on building black wealth, not just ending poverty.

And this candidate knows how to get stuff done — he can fight this fire at the scale of the fire. His team has for years used social networks to promote progressive issues to centrist and conservative audiences. He won’t cede the internet/Facebook/Twitter battlefield to Trump’s team, who are killers in that space.

And this candidate is now rising steadily in the polls. This candidate is Michael Bloomberg. This candidate has Trump very worried.

https://i.imgur.com/1LoRO9j.png

(Disclosure: Bloomberg Philanthropies has donated to Planet Word, the museum my wife is building in Washington, to promote reading and literacy.)

Buttigieg is catching up to Sanders.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:02 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i havent been watching cable abt it, what parts of the state are still counting?

Some of the suburban-ish southern areas and a couple of the college towns

*drake "no" face* suburbs?
*drake "yes" face* college towns

yeah this is getting way too close and anything other than Bernie beating him by 5% is going to be touted as a Pete "win"

One thing I love about Warren is she gives no signs that she’ll spend even a minute licking her wounds if she loses before getting right back into the thick of things again

She's speaking to loser Claire McCaskill without a shred of smugness.

at this point I am praying she endorses bernie at least, if only because otherwise the groundhog will predict 5000 more years of Discourse

We won’t be free of discourse ever again.

according to WP Sanders, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar each have 6 delegates so far out of 24

Waiting for Durham still (where UNH is)

Hanover (Dartmouth) went for Buttigieg

ivies gotta stick together

I really can't behind, ever, calling any candidate by their first name.

so weird hearing grown men and women referring to "Amy" and "Mayor Pete" and "Elizabeth.

my close personal friends

just wait for

https://media.nbcdfw.com/2019/09/mike-bloomberg-resized.jpg

Ames, Petey, Stinky Joe, Lizzo, Mr. Sanders

lol

out there gettin JUICED

Biden‘s bid to be the Inevitability Candidate seems to have faltered, anything other than beating Bg soundly and Sanders acceptably in S.C. presumably fatal, right?

I assume both Biden and Warren will keep campaigning through Super Tuesday regardless of the rest of February.

Who the fuck is voting for Pete? I don't live there now, but my moderate parents in NH split between Warren and Klobuchar. My brother voted for Sanders. I have never met or spoken to a gung-ho Buttigieg supporter. I know the tides turn quickly but who are these people?

cat people

NBC projects Sanders the winner.

cat people

― Dan I., Tuesday, February 11, 2020

been so long imo

I assume both Biden and Warren will keep campaigning through Super Tuesday regardless of the rest of February.

Seems like a sound assumption. At this stage only two weird small states have contributed their votes, so even if the narrative goes against you, you can still pin your hopes on the many hundreds of delegates yet to be distributed, which dwarf the numbers from Iowa, NH, and NV.

SC is where the narrative really gels into something much solider and it's nearly impossible to recover if you're not still in the top three. Since Super Tuesday comes just a couple of days after SC, you don't pull out until after Super Tuesday, regardless.

nah, pete is an extreme dog person

(so is warren but in a different way)

Who the fuck is voting for Pete? I don't live there now, but my moderate parents in NH split between Warren and Klobuchar. My brother voted for Sanders. I have never met or spoken to a gung-ho Buttigieg supporter. I know the tides turn quickly but who are these people?

― thewufs, Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:05 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the one pete fan i know is a v sweet person whom i like a lot, i dont remember him being suuuuper into politics before buti remember him being reliably liberal. was in TFA with me, then started working at google. took a sabbatical to volunteer on the campaign.

anyway there must be like 1 million people in that exact demographic that i just described.

Sanders is ahead for the first time in Nevada polling according to 538

Worked at Google (and didn't get fired for unionizing) seems like a strong tell for Pete support

Why so sad, CNN?

(Except for Rojas)

lol

I doubt it’d happen, but what if the Sanders VP pick was someone who isn’t currently, or maybe has never been, a politician?

any truth to the concern that Bernie isn't drawing a big enough base? I see dudes like Weigel tweeting about it

Hanover (Dartmouth) went for Buttigieg

― Dan S, Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:46 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

never in doubt

has never been, a politician

It's a great rarity, but not totally unheard of.

please vote in my horrifying poll

the least bad remaining centrist democrat presidential candidate 2020

Sanders + Michelle O. would be a doozy

any truth to the concern that Bernie isn't drawing a big enough base?

Anyone who say they know how this will play out is just guessing. being the nominee automatically assigns much of the base to your election. the variables at the margins of this are too hard to know in advance.

the least worst of the (major-ish) moderate 2020 democratic presidential candidates

caek, already got u boo

I don't believe in any conspiracy bullshit about Mayor Pete - he is a self-made absolute shell of a human. He built that shell all by his goddamn self. I don't like type-A yuppie aspireocrats anymore than the next Millennial, but he seemed reasonable enough to me back in July or so when I knew nothing about the guy. It was the articles about his handling of his little city's big police problem that turned my stomach. So here's hoping that #CIAPete or some better hashtag spreads like fucking wildfire over the next couple weeks, and may the woke Mitt Romney be delivered back to the obscurity from whence he came.

Klobuchar is doing pretty well huh

ah sorry, xxp

my takeaway from this open primary is that a lot of Republicans really do legitimately like Klobuchar

“Historically the Democratic Party hasn’t been an angry party” —Chris Matthews (2020)

Sanders won overwhelmingly among ppl age 18-29 (51% to 20% for Buttigieg and 4% for Klobuchar) & age 30-39 (39%).

He lost big among voters 65+ (14%, compared to 32% for Klobuchar), tho in Iowa he'd only got 4% among voters above 65.

— Taniel (@Taniel) February 12, 2020

xps - but do they like her well enough to defect from their tribe in the general election?

presumably the ones who voted in the Dem primary are at least entertaining the idea of not voting for Trump in the general