Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

no he doesnt, the devoted following is good as hell

I'm not sure what clemenza means by devoted following, but, yeah, dull, m bison, of course he needs more people. I don't know what you're arguing.

Vote Barney Sanchez 2020

nina turner comes up in vp talk but a lot of people seem to just outright hate her

sanders picking harris is totally ridiculous

lot of bernie people seem to think warren dropping out would be a big boost to him but i think her remaining supporters could just as likely latch onto buttigieg, or klob given her performance tonight

and lot of people in general seem to think she would endorse him but i don't think that's even close to a given... would imagine literally all the other candidates would be willing to offer a lot for her endorsement

I'm not sure what clemenza means by devoted following, but, yeah, dull, m bison, of course he needs more people. I don't know what you're arguing.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:11 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im being glib, im def for expanding his base. i dont think harris is the best choice. im angling for castro bc (a) need young progressives on the national stage (b) he didnt attack sanders (or warren) during his campaign and would make a good surrogate on the campaign trail (c) has record (preK4SA) of supporting public programs (d) porque san anto

She doesn't help electorally, but in every other way, I think she'd help.

What other ways are those?

A Warren/Castro ticket might've been my favorite, but, yeah, Sanders/Castro is rad.

(I actually don't think she'd be terrible tbh.xp)

Still don't know why Harris would give up a lifetime in the Senate from the most important state for a career-killer.

If AOC were 5 years older...

Oh she def is waiting in the wings

technocracy proved less popular than corruption in DC

Surprising no one

another pt in favor of castro is (e) one less senator to be replaced by a gop governor

also (f) has a twin for backup in case he sucks

Castro was a pretty shitty HUD secretary but it's hard to care about qualifications when you're talking VP aside from 'not old enough to collect Social Security.'

Sanders already has strong Latino support. Castro was not good at HUD. I liked some of the things he campaigned on but I don’t think it will be him.

ALTERNATE JOEK

Hang out with your

Yang out

Sanders already has strong Latino support. Castro was not good at HUD. I liked some of the things he campaigned on but I don’t think it will be him.

― dsb, Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:28 PM (twenty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

NAME NAMES HOMIE

great, the MSM (including NPR) will try to make Klobuchar happen yet again

Klobufetch

Bernie's veep pick would be

1) not a prez candidate from this year

2) someone not white, pref a woman

Warren? Two white lefties [sic] from New England? Are you crazy?

This is going to get to Bernie vs the Mayors isn't it

I hope Sanders chooses well if he’s the nominee, not sure who that would be

like pence was a shitty gov of indiana, biden was a credit card company stooge, you pick someone who affirms your campaign's central message. sanders has some less than great immigration stances in his past, might be good to have someone for whom immigration is a major issue next to you.

is there a popular Democratic woman governor under sixty from a state outside the northeast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Brown

maybe?

sure sign her up

amy klobuchar speech "...the people in the middle..." lol

a name i've seen thrown around a bunch is tammy baldwin which makes a lot of sense. popular senator with a strong progressive record who supports his signature policy and is from a key swing state. also a woman, and gay for extra minority rep, not that sanders really needs help there particularly.

she'd be good too

I do like her, from what little I know

Tammy Duckworth hasn't made a lot of news since she got elected but... war hero and stuff

I like her too

So many younger people who are good options, let's leave Warren in the Senate since a Republican would get appointed for six or nine months or whatever.

I was about to self-flagellate with some election coverage but the Westminster Dog Show is on so I'm voting for the Airedale

Baldwin is terrific but I believe she has little interest in being President which makes me think she has no real reason to want to be Vice President. Plus, Senate vacancies in Wisconsin are filled by special election and there is zero reason to feel confident D's would hold that seat. It is also hard for me to imagine which Wisconsin voters would be moved from not-Sanders to Sanders via the presence of Tammy Baldwin.

Buttigieg is catching up to Sanders.

We've had veeptalk about Abrams but the consensus seems to have been that she has other things to do than that

looks like a giant walrus man has thrown his blubber behind bloomberg

But there is one candidate on the Democratic side who not only has a track record of supporting all those issues but also has the resources to build a machine big enough to take on the Trump machine.

This candidate also has the toughness to take on Trump, because while Trump was pretending to be a C.E.O. on the show “The Apprentice,” this candidate was actually building one of the most admired global companies as a real C.E.O.

This candidate is not cuddly, he is not always politically correct and he will not always tell you what you want to hear — or try to outbid you on how many free services he’ll give away. He’s made mistakes, especially around stop-and-frisk policing in New York City, which disproportionately targeted black and brown men and for which he recently apologized.

His mistakes, though, have to be weighed against a record of courageously speaking out and devoting enormous personal resources to virtually every progressive cause — gun control, abortion rights, climate change, Planned Parenthood, education reform for predominantly minority schools, affordable housing, income inequality and tax reform. And he has vowed as president to focus on building black wealth, not just ending poverty.

And this candidate knows how to get stuff done — he can fight this fire at the scale of the fire. His team has for years used social networks to promote progressive issues to centrist and conservative audiences. He won’t cede the internet/Facebook/Twitter battlefield to Trump’s team, who are killers in that space.

And this candidate is now rising steadily in the polls. This candidate is Michael Bloomberg. This candidate has Trump very worried.

https://i.imgur.com/1LoRO9j.png

(Disclosure: Bloomberg Philanthropies has donated to Planet Word, the museum my wife is building in Washington, to promote reading and literacy.)

Buttigieg is catching up to Sanders.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:02 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i havent been watching cable abt it, what parts of the state are still counting?

Some of the suburban-ish southern areas and a couple of the college towns

*drake "no" face* suburbs?
*drake "yes" face* college towns

yeah this is getting way too close and anything other than Bernie beating him by 5% is going to be touted as a Pete "win"

One thing I love about Warren is she gives no signs that she’ll spend even a minute licking her wounds if she loses before getting right back into the thick of things again

She's speaking to loser Claire McCaskill without a shred of smugness.

at this point I am praying she endorses bernie at least, if only because otherwise the groundhog will predict 5000 more years of Discourse

We won’t be free of discourse ever again.