Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Oh no i went back and fixed that election yesterday

can YOU win an election? take over a President's consciousness and go back in time and win!

― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:26 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tried to win that one by going hard left with jesse jackson as running mate, lost every state but WV

which is why i'm endorsing amy klobuchar for president

Been saying from the moment he entered that Bloomberg will go nowhere. He is benefitting from the lag between his late entry massive ad buys and the time it will take for his totally unpalatable personage and policy track record to catch up with him. Seriously, he is a big business libertarian who also wants authoritarian control over individual consumer choices. No to living wage, but he is coming for your guns and soda. HE HAS NO CONSTITUENCY. He was semi-popular as mayor because he's a skilled administrator. That's it.

I think decades of being an effective executive gives him something concrete to run on, esp in contrast to someone like Pete who made some PowerPoints and held local office, and having basically infinite money has real value in a campaign. His ‘constituency’ is - in theory - moderate dems who give up on Biden and Buttigieg and have nowhere else to go.

I think he would be a pretty good president (who would have a much better chance at achieving left wing policy outcomes than sanders) but I also think that his candidacy would be a huge gamble on moderates loving him and the raw power of $$. Surely would be a shitshow w/ the sanders suicide cult, but I’m beginning to think that no matter who wins at this point it’s gonna be ugly.

The bloomberglars lead a convention walk out

Outside of thinking he would be an effective president and does have at least a theoretical path to victory I think it is ‘a bad thing’ for America to only elect billionaires, and if we have two billionaire presidents in a row suddenly the presidency is the new super yacht.

Xps

in what universe is bloomberg delivering left wing policy outcomes? his NYC tenure was textbook developer-oriented neoliberalism plus stop-and-frisk.

environmental policy

Bloomberg's ads on climate policy are very progressive.

(keep in mind I hate him and resent his candidacy)

^^ the one positive of his candidacy is that battling climate change seems to be very very high on his list of priorities.

i miss jay inslee.

if left-wing policy begins and ends with ‘destroying neoliberalism’ then yes he won’t be an effective president, and of course neither will Bernie Sanders.

If the question is who is more likely to successfully win a fight with the health care industry to pass a public option, I think it’s Bloomberg and I don’t think it’s close. (It’s prob nobody though.)

Outside of thinking he would be an effective president and does have at least a theoretical path to victory I think it is ‘a bad thing’ for America to only elect billionaires, and if we have two billionaire presidents in a row suddenly the presidency is the new super yacht.

I feel this, particularly in the context of escalation, but Presidents have on balance been a good bit wealthier than the general population for most of the country's history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_net_worth#List_of_presidents_by_peak_net_worth

welp
https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/In-2015-audio-Bloomberg-advocates-targeting-15047272.php

Bloomberg being a racist shitbag ought to be enough to tank him once more stuff like this starts circulating. Up to this point he's just been flooding the airwaves with his money, but now that he's risen in the polls there will be pushback (just like there was against Harris, against Warren, against Mayor Pete, etc.)

Perhaps, but at the current moment he has pretty strong support among blacks and some high profile endorsements, so that’s a projection.

Mellencamp endorsement surely worth a few delegates

authority always wins iirc

But Bloomberg has a point! Heavy-handed, brutal, fascist-terrorist police tactics actually do bring results. In the places where these tactics are applied they can reduce crime, if you are willing to overlook and excuse the enormous increase in criminality among the police force.

It will be interesting to see if Bloomberg’s non-white support weathers this audio. I guess anything’s possible.

authority always wins iirc

I predict it will not, esp because there is probably more that is worse still to come out

xps

yeh I probably should have included sarcasm font

but fuck, maybe. who knows anything any more.

Expect more of these baity horseshoe theory handwringing articles in the coming weeks. Very Serious People Are Very Upset a US President may actually seek authorization from Congress before launching wars https://t.co/0E1lfK1pHB

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 11, 2020

My more paranoid and cynical side wonders if "national security" is actually the real number one reason for establishment opposition to Sanders. Medicare for All can be stymied in congress, but the national security state needs a president who will go along with them.

dwight_d_einsenhower_military_industrial_complex_speech(chopped&screwed).flac

we just had a "national security" impeachment that underperformed

re: national security

I have some thoughts about the declines and falls of imperial ruling classes, which may or may not be relevant to our current state of affairs.

— Patrick Wyman (@Patrick_Wyman) January 5, 2020

the only good tweet thread, dips into the crisis of American elites and bipartisan consensus

we just had a "national security" impeachment that underperformed

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 3

Right? Why couldn't the Democratically-controlled Senate convict him already?!

oh Christ c'mon

betcha no one is thinking about it in 6 months is what i meant

Medicare for All can be stymied in congress, but the national security state needs a president who will go along with them.

No we don’t. There’s only one kind of administration once they’ve moved in. Read your Lewis Lapham:

https://fabiusmaximus.com/2009/11/19/lapham-7/

god Lewis Lapham. He still lives!

Tweed never dies

KLOBMENTUUUUUUUM

MSNBC reporting Klobuchar ahead because so far she has gotten 8 votes

— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) February 11, 2020

CNN doing the same, with 0% reporting.

That lasted long

Joy Reid making the case for Bloomberg: "If you wanna beat a Republican you have to know how to fight like a Republican. And he IS a Republican."

— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) February 12, 2020

xp — re: national security any president will be an improvement over someone who has almost gotten the world nuked a dozen times over (that we know of)

I'd take Nero at this point

man could fiddle

“He is one of the most admirable people I’ve ever known,” said James Carville, the legendary Democratic strategist, who has thrown his support behind the presidential campaign of Sen. Michael F. Bennet (Colo.). “But he’s never been a good candidate. This is not his first rodeo, and he ain’t roped a cow yet.”

Wait, who?

lol!

xp

lot of surreality in this article https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/02/11/trail-with-joe-biden-what-happens-when-electability-candidate-starts-lose/

it does actually look like klobuchar might be in a fight for second place with 3500 votes in

biden gonna be 5th in this thing.

Can't wait for his new emails.

"Can you spare $5? It's not for the campaign."

Camaro hood flame decals ain't free, yo

"You can I borrow a thin, Jack? You know, a dime?"

excuse me, I think you mean FIREBIRD

"Help me understand why I'm not welcome at my niece's wedding"