Oscars 2020

I like Rob Sheffield's line on Eminem: "It was the Oscars’ equivalent of giving a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh."

I spent a couple minutes this morning trying to guess what he'd have performed and the most relevant thing was the ending credits song from Venom

i'm a softie i guess but the standing o for eminem was the co-highlight of the night for me (alongside Parasite win). you gotta think eminem's fade from glory to basically a punching bag has sucked for him. this was a nice gesture

the 8 Mile single won best song, right?

Yeah. Kind of a repeat of "Purple Rain," with Eminem getting an Oscar while also starring in a huge film and selling millions of records, though iirc Prince got some sort of special Oscar.

I liked how after every performance the performer just sort of awkwardly stands there for a while. Maybe it's always like that? Anyway, I wasn't watching at the time, but when I heard the Eminem song keep going I thought, wait, is Eminem performing? Why? I went downstairs to where the rest of the fam was watching and caught the rest of it and still don't know why.

I didn't see the movie, but I guess Elton John recorded a new song for his biopic? Isn't that a bit like tacking a new track on to a greatest hits collection?

Prince won Best Music, Original Song Score which was a regular category at the time.

xpost I have to assume it was an end credits number or something. Like the Harriet Tubman tune, presumably. Unless I missed the fact that Harriet is a musical.

Prince beat The Muppets Take Manhattan and Songwriter (a Kristofferson project)

xp

Eminem didn't attend the ceremony in 2003 when "Lose Yourself" won, so he never actually performed it at the Oscars until last night.

well thank god the academy saw fit to finally right that historical wrong

remember when he made fun of moby for being 36?

basically em has a new album out is my thinking

"I didn't see the movie, but I guess Elton John recorded a new song for his biopic?"

yes. it's a pretty good song too, IMO. but off the top of my head I can't remember where it was in the movie (not over the closing credits, that was I'm Still Standing).

Eminem performance was unnecessary even if he was good; I just kept thinking "this seems like a retreat from the nominal nods toward diversity and women that they're trying to make in this show". I was rather surprised by the standing ovation he got.

what's more diverse than rap tho, such a brave decision from the academy

the nonstop pandering about supporting women in film against an uncaring and sexist industry read quite a bit like the presenters were fighting back against... the show they were on?

have to say now that Parasite won so many Oscars I'm.... less excited to get around to watching it

including jeffrey epstein in the 'in memoriam' segment seemed like a misstep too tbqh xp

trust your gut imo (but see it anyway) xp

yeah there's no way you're going to dislike it shakey.

"the nonstop pandering about supporting women in film against an uncaring and sexist industry read quite a bit like the presenters were fighting back against... the show they were on?"

yes which is funny considering none of it was unscripted

the bullshit about how no, they really do get it, actually, is why parasite won

maya and kristen's were mad lol j/k wasn't a dismissal of sexism so much as fuck the oscars

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but off the top of my head I can't remember where it was in the movie (not over the closing credits, that was I'm Still Standing).

The credits are long enough that both songs were featured.

Oof, I just saw that they didn't include Luke Perry in the in memoriam. And he's even in one of the top nominated films!!

Btw, every time they cut to Sam Mendes I thought it was bearded Mark Ruffalo and that the cameraman was making a mistake.

ppl should understand that if the deceased isn't *best known* for the medium of film, not TV or stage, they may not be included.

of course an exception was made for Kobe

Kobe won an Oscar.

I didn't know Anna Karina had died until last night. :(

yes, Kobe won an Oscar; so did Dorothy Malone, and they left her out last year

... possibly sparing us seeing her stroke the oil derrick again.

one of the great shots in '50s cinema

Well, yeah.

Tim Conway fans need to know Apple Dumpling Gang doesnt get him in; the Emmys, yes

did they show Kobe? I don't recall that.

ppl can always click thru the 163 photos here (they have Barbara Hammer AND Arte Johnson)

Kobe was first, Kirk Douglas was last, some non-rapists were in-between.

Probably some rapists.

I noticed there was some audible reaction during the death montage. I thought they'd gone silent on that for a few years.

seriously, shove the unsubstantiated "rapist" shit in the case of Douglas

The decisive factor, I suspect, was "own Trump." So, y'know, fine, I'm sure it will prevent his reelection.

I like the movie! I just have no idea what it was trying to say about class war.

Maybe that the victims are always human beings? (And the rest of the natural world, to floods.) (But that humans are incapable of saving themselves in the end.)

douglas was certainly a philanderer but I've never heard him accused of rape.

I hadn't, either, until he died, and Natalie Wood was suddenly trending on Twitter.

https://www.wonkette.com/are-we-seriously-going-to-accuse-someone-of-rape-based-on-one-comment-on-a-shady-gossip-blog

this all seems to be harkening back to...GAwker?

unless the "some non-rapists in between" was used for an easy joek above, which I'm....sure hoping not.

I have a hard time condemning Douglas without something other than an anonymous source and assurances that "these rumors have persisted for years". I don't have a hard time believing Natalie Wood was brutally raped,as she confided this in her surviving sister Lana. But the identity of her rapist was not publicly provided by Natalie, nor has it been provided by surviving family, but rather some anonymous internet handle whose identity has never been authenticated, who is choosing to speak on behalf of Natalie and her surviving family, without any comments from the family endorsing the statement?

choosing to speak *eight years ago* at that

Fine, sorry for being flip.

when did this happen, at best director?

Bong and Spike inciting a standing ovation for Scorsese made this whole ordeal worth it. Verklempt.

— Sean Burns (@SeanMBurns) February 10, 2020

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