Oscars 2020

Renee

I'm not sure I'll live long enough to personally witness the day, but I can say with near certainty that some future best actor slate will feature a minimum of two competing Jokers.

xpost lol, btw

The Jokescars

By 2051 we will have seen Martha Wayne getting shot and dropping her pearls 37 different ways

I don't think I'll ever watch the awards again but I'm glad a genuinely defensible movie won for a change. That happens maybe once a decade on average?

Moonlight was a good winner but Parasite a much better one

tonight's winner is significantly inferior to Little Women and The Irishman btw

I even agree with this except for the "significantly" part but ... Jesus, a movie wins the Palme d'Or, tops the most authoritative critics' polls, and still somehow pulls out the best picture Oscar despite being in a foreign language and not even a little piece of you is heartened?

When was the last time a movie took both? iirc Marty was the first.

Parasite is the second.

So far as awful winners since they expanded the field, nothing quite matches the uselessness of the string from The King's Speech to The Artist to Argo.

Four decent to good pictures winning the top award in the last six years (12 Years a Slave, Spotlight, Moonlight, Parasite) strikes me as the best string of my life.

It happens every now and then that a film wins both Palm and Foreign Film Oscar. Amour in 12, Pelle the Conqueror in 89, The Tin Drum 79, A Man and a Woman 66, Black Orpheus 59, Gate of Hell 54. Think that's it.

I watched The Search yesterday and it honestly improves my impression of The Artist a bit, because at least it's not that joyless self-serious pile of crap. Still, Hazanavicius will never again make anything as good as the OSS 117 films.

not even a little piece of you is heartened?

No dear, bcz fuck the Oscars, now and forever.

The decisive factor, I suspect, was "own Trump." So, y'know, fine, I'm sure it will prevent his reelection.

I like the movie! I just have no idea what it was trying to say about class war.

What matters is what you take from it. I learned that from some of my colleagues while dancing the hokey pokey.

I like the movie! I just have no idea what it was trying to say about class war.

that true class war is impossible while the working class fight each other for scraps from the master's table and while the only better life they can visualise for themselves is becoming the master is basically how i break it down to an extent

agreed

surprised to see Morbs coming down on the side of movies with clear messages that are conveyed directly to the audience, aka classic oscars bait :)

OK, but i think the climactic ultraviolence muddled that, if so. xp

I watched the last award clip, and Bong and a female producer were credited onscreen. Who was the other woman who spoke?

you know about Western Union and messages, mh

imo the stabbing did not undermine or muddle it but reinforced it, then again i am always watching a movie hoping someone gets stabbed

it's hard to end a movie i've noticed. interesting first act then slide into oblivion is how 80% of movies go for me

"I watched the last award clip, and Bong and a female producer were credited onscreen. Who was the other woman who spoke?" the translator?

the climactic ultraviolence works on a story level as an inevitable eruption of the tension that's built up across the film between the three camps of characters

i think it also works on the more macro level of a story about class war because, while the causes of the violence seem obvious to us as an audience, they are treated by the media in the movie as basically an inexplicable novelty, to be covered in the news for a day or two and then completely forgotten, absorbed and neutralised by the dominant ideology - random acts of violence against the ruling class are absolutely not going to change the system in their own right

the ending lacked the cohesion of the setup, but the shot that made Parasite for me was the cut from that final nose-wrinkling sniff to the murder

to me it's just a simple progression. the allegory is never subtle, but it becomes a sledgehammer with the sewage leak and murderous mayhem is the next logical stop

akm, no, the first woman (who I assumed was the co-producer) had a translator, but the second woman spoke in English.

https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/from-parasite-to-bts-all-you-need-to-know-about-miky-lee-south-korean-entertainments-greatest-mogul-8025381.html

A violent climax of some kind was justified, but that was not my favourite part of the movie. I think of the violent endings of some of Edward Yang's movies in comparison, which are shocking and wrenching but without being lurid.

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rvw too

I'm legitimately surprised how popular Parasite became amongst the general populace. Most of my friends saw it before me and loved it. Even my boss. Nobody bitching about subtitles or being confused or the usual bullshit lobbed against "tham fahreign feelms". The showing I saw at a Regal months after it had first come out was pretty well attended.

Like stated upthread, I think audiences just needed exposure to SK cinema

Years of hyping Hong Sang-soo finally paying off

SK cinema has for awhile now been in such a golden age. Obviously filmmakers like Park Chan-wook and Bong, but others like Park Hoon-jung (New World) or Yoon Jong-bin (Nameless Gangster), among many others. Those two films are worth seeking out, the former a genuinely thrilling twist on the Infernal Affairs/Departed type of story, except arguably better than either of those. The latter is maybe more in the Bong style, vacillating between comedy and grim gangster drama fairly easily.

Well now you have my attention re: the first one you listed

i watched it on Netflix streaming a few years ago, a few others (VG maybe) also enjoyed it. It's pretty cheap to rent on Amazon Prime now.

the other woman who spoke was Lee Jung Eun, who played the housekeeper in Parasite

I saw that somewhere else! She glammed up nice. Thanks.

A truly cross generational moment as both Scorsese and his daughter have no clue what to make of Eminem pic.twitter.com/NS2QIfDAiP

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) February 10, 2020

i was confused and then i muted it.

they had to lose themselves

Guessed right 21 out of 24 categories last night - sound editing, director and best doc were the ones I got wrong - I should have placed a bet online.

I am so happy Parasite won.The only other winner from the past decade that was a personal favorite of mine was Birdman. But I think almost no-one else I know in real life cares about it or was as excited about it as I was. Parasite, on the other hand, is one of those weird instances were the movie can somewhat qualify as an 'art film' but the script is entertaining enough for the general public to appreciate it without going into the craft that casual moviegoers only enjoy passively - production design, cinematography, editing, etc... - I think this is the first Oscar winner in years that I've heard praise from both my family and friends that are least interested in cinema and my most cinephile friends.

It's seriously such a well crafted movie, even if you don't care for the overall script I will ignore your opinion if you can't find a single good thing to say about this film. Even the most purist movie lover should find something to like in that Hitchcock-inspired peach scene, which was worth the edition nomination for that scene alone.

I think it's a masterpiece and the exact good will that was needed from the academy after that Green Book win. All is forgiven.

I had 20/24 in an online contest. The winner had 23 (obv a Parasite rider).

i mean, i didn't even try THAT hard

I'm sorry, Eminem performed at the Oscars last night? Eminem the rap music man?

I like Rob Sheffield's line on Eminem: "It was the Oscars’ equivalent of giving a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh."

I spent a couple minutes this morning trying to guess what he'd have performed and the most relevant thing was the ending credits song from Venom

i'm a softie i guess but the standing o for eminem was the co-highlight of the night for me (alongside Parasite win). you gotta think eminem's fade from glory to basically a punching bag has sucked for him. this was a nice gesture

the 8 Mile single won best song, right?

Yeah. Kind of a repeat of "Purple Rain," with Eminem getting an Oscar while also starring in a huge film and selling millions of records, though iirc Prince got some sort of special Oscar.

I liked how after every performance the performer just sort of awkwardly stands there for a while. Maybe it's always like that? Anyway, I wasn't watching at the time, but when I heard the Eminem song keep going I thought, wait, is Eminem performing? Why? I went downstairs to where the rest of the fam was watching and caught the rest of it and still don't know why.