Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

sic posted:

if it eats like a rat and fucks like a rat, then rat memes may be both apt and lol

It only comes across as about 'fucking' if you've managed to live the last 45 years without knowing what 'ratfucking' means and I doubt that's true of anyone reading the Democratic primary thread, so...

I’m not keeping this up with you

tbf, the context of Pete being gay and "fucking like a rat" also occurred to me as a very badly formed mockery

Did enter my mind as well

Tho i doubt that was the intent

as a fag, I must say it didn't enter mine

some of you *may* share the same diagnosis of Bro Derangement Syndrome

none of you are watching the debate? (I'm not)

liveblog from a friend I mostly agree with:

"Yes, Klob, if you bring all your single digit voters with you that'll beat Trump, good call"

"Probably just a coincidence that the candidates arguing most against Medicare for All are the ones losing"

"Biden is America's embarrassing grandpa"

"lol everybody up there isn't even trying to hide how much they hate Pete"

"OK, Steyer gets the guillotine last after being for reparations"

"The billionaire should not be the second best person on that stage. That tells you everything about the rest of those fucking schmucks."

"Pete's meaningless gibberish is gonna give me a stroke"

(I think he survived)

what in the hell


I could do without the Buttigieg as rat meme that's picking up steam of late.

― 🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Friday, February 7, 2020 6:42 AM (fourteen minutes ago)

Between Tuesday and Thursday, I saw a bunch of memes on the theme on Buttigieg as rat. These were based on the posters' perceptions that his declaring that "By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious," when no reliable indications of results existed at all, due entirely to the failure of implementation of an incredibly incompetent phone app funded by the local party and Buttigieg himself, the security of which was being actively compromised over and over again by a local Buttigieg campaign lead posting PINs on Twitter, had the potential appearance of political ratfucking.

I did not see any memes about Buttigieg engaging physically in sexual intercourse. If these were common, feel free to link them here so I can know some sites or posters to avoid on purpose instead of by chance.

The last "Pete as rat" meme I encountered was the Cinnabon one from the Boonta Vista guy. This rounded off the joking as far as my experience went, and is the sole citation for my reference to eating like a rat upthread.

I have never in my life been aware of a notion that the coitus of cis gay men resembles the coitus of rats, and if I had, I would have avoided that construction.

Having seen rats boning IRL, I still fail to see what the comparison centres on. To anyone who is offended by an assumption of a derogatory homosexual connotation in my post, my apologies, but I ask that you please FP one of my previous "4 the lulz" posts that has conditioned you to expect gross homophobia from me, instead of this genuine moment of ignorance of an existing meme.

what they think is acceptable to say about anybody who might take a delegate or two from the bern

I learnt about Senator Sanders' existence when James Adomian added Bernie to his range of comedic impressions, and it's less than a week since I last said in this thread that Senator Warren is my preference for President, so this doesn't even vaguely track.


Tom, I've said before that I value your presence and perspective on political threads. It's nearly always a bummer when you have rage-y and kinda-sorta-nigh-libel-ish outbursts at folks in whatever threads. Your real life is no doubt super-busy rn, and fuck knows everyone here is hanging on to frazzled nerves every day. But if you ever have a chance to slow down and express longer thoughts on party processes or the respective value of individual candidates, I'd enjoy seeing them, and I expect they'd make better contributions to the discourse than 90% of everyone's posts itt.

‘Fuck like a rat’ joke read as weird gay slam to this old too, but i often interpret u to be a channy edgedork so i figure im just old

Between Tuesday and Thursday, I saw a bunch of memes on the theme on Buttigieg as rat. These were based on the posters' perceptions that his declaring that "By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious," when no reliable indications of results existed at all, due entirely to the failure of implementation of an incredibly incompetent phone app funded by the local party and Buttigieg himself, the security of which was being actively compromised over and over again by a local Buttigieg campaign lead posting PINs on Twitter, had the potential appearance of political ratfucking.

i'm sorry my bernie bros but this is some extremely dumb ass shit to be getting worked up over

I don't mind Pete's quasi-declaration as much as I mind the media running with his word and apparently helping to boost his NH polling

"By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious," is not some beyond the pale political dirty tricks

& If you're sincerely concerned about how the media is spinning things then you've already lost

xpost!

it does read as very nothingburger to me

indications probably pointed to him doing better than expected, since it turns out he was winning. So yeah, it's insane to keep it up. And to expect other posters to connect 'fucks like a rat' to that non-story rather than as a slam on his sexuality only shows sic has spent too long in an echo chamber. No hard feelings, sic, we all make mistakes, nobody gets my hilarious puns based on Danish grammar either. But I think you read too many Bernie camp tweets ;)

it it possible to respond to a specific poster's transgressions without constantly extrapolating the blanket "you berniebros"?

cuz it's fucking maddening, heightens defensiveness, and only metastasizes the FB/twitter cancer we're pretty much universally opposed to itt and others

I said “my bernie bros“ because bernie supporters are my people

My irascibility is a critical element of my character but I appreciate sic’s, er, advice on how to post (also I strive to be succinct and mostly post from Zing these days)

I think Hadrian is right that picking hills to die on is stupid and bad and I’ll work on being less annoyed by certain people (as one normally does)

Killfile is cheating though

I'm just exhausted at the confines of morally acceptable behavior that will not get you mocked being drawn closer and closer and closer and closer in, too close for any person to exist, because a morally neutral behavior is being done by someone who is Bad. like, the other day a meme was going on making fun of the way pete eats, which is apparently unacceptable somehow? (I already hate eating in public for fear of how I look doing it; this did not help)

The only thing that matters to some people is whether you support Bernie’s (imagined) platform 100%; the less you are exactly like Bernie, the more acceptable it is to make fun of you in the most juvenile middle-school-cafeteria ways; the result: LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph

But by ostensible Democrats, rather than frothing Tories.

I just wish that people would ask themselves, before posting any kind of dunk, "do other people do this behavior/possess this trait?", "are those other people also Bad?" and then, if the answers to those questions are yes and no, not dunk on that particular behavior

new board description

we should dunk people not by the eating of their sandwiches, but by the content of their character?

Some people happily embrace politics as a surrogate for war, where every kind of aggression finds its natural expression. The great majority of those people seem to be men.

This is cold as hell. pic.twitter.com/88zm7DofKS

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 8, 2020

oh yikes

it's a good ad

lolll

Extremely funny but too late

Biden's claims for Buttigeig's record are accurate. His claims for his own record are highly simplified and inflated. But it's an effective ad and, yes, cold as hell.

lol holy shit

I still enjoy Biden's campaign emails cos they always feel like they were written by a grifting estranged grandparent who needs money for they Greyhound track

"still enjoy Biden's campaign emails cos they always feel like they were written by a grifting estranged grandparent who needs money for they Greyhound track"

I think most of America wishes the Onion's version of Joe Biden was the real one.

Is the music during the Biden parts an orchestral "Whatever You Like"? I think that's what I hear. If so, maybe it's meant to subconsciously evoke this--more Obama glomming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxlwYP0HNdc

'former mayor'

they want joe cool who fucks and gets drunk, but they have joe FOOL who SUCKS and gets DUNKED

xp to earlnash

I still enjoy Biden's campaign emails cos they always feel like they were written by a grifting estranged grandparent who needs money for they Greyhound track

I should sign up for those; the Warren ones I get have a tone of self-pitying desperation that I really don't like ("Everyone else is raising more money than us - we only need 10 more people in Your State to donate and we'll be able to save this starving puppy continue our campaign through New Hampshire"), and the Trump ones read like a sales pitch from Glengarry Glen Ross ("My aides are going to present me a list of American Patriots on Friday, Bob, and I want to see your name on that list").

("Bob" because I use the name "Bob Dobalina" when I sign up for bullshit emails)

Buttigeig is transparently a nobody who was talent-scouted by powerful people who saw the progressive bandwagons for Sanders and Warren picking up major support, were horrified at the prospect, and went looking for their own Wendell Willkie figure they could promote as a spoiler, some empty vessel for whom they could craft a national image without any pesky pre-existing image getting in the way of the shiny new product they were selling. They did a damn good job of it, too, when you consider how much of a nobody Pete was just a year ago.

they want joe cool who fucks and gets drunk, but they have joe FOOL who SUCKS and gets DUNKED

I'm sort of constitutionally wired to dislike Biden's "mayors aren't shit" ad

electroconstitutional crisis

a new WPA but it's for putting pretty lights on bridges across the country

Let's just be thankful Joe hasn't stumbled a certain cinematic chestnut known as Bulworth

This was the first time I heard of the Best Little Boy: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/fashion/weddings/mayor-peter-buttigieg-wedding-democratic-party.html

Obama namedropping him was what started this

I will donate to the Biden campaign if he performs "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" in front of a camera.

Before that NYT article about his wedding there was this Frank Bruni column from 2016:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/opinion/sunday/the-first-gay-president.html

Everyone thought young Harold Stassen was a golden lad, destined to be president, too.

as one ages one dngaf about criticism, which may explain the plethora of over-70 candidates