Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

...followed by armed struggle

for those who want it

armed struggle for some, miniature american flags for others

really some nightmare scenarios become possible if biden doesn't cling on as the centrist oaf.

nightmare scenarios such as... Buttigeig/Klobuchar 2020?

such as trump cruising to re-election

Bloomberg/Steyer 2020: We Own You, Bitch

Bernie's custom campaign shirt will have a silhouette of Prince and say "Donnie, Don't Talk to Russia"

is this where I say that while pete sucks, the mass dunking on that "the shape of our democracy is the issue that affects every other issue" quote is completely fucking ridiculous. it's like nobody has encountered a metaphor in their lives, not everything is a literal statement particularly in oratory, jesus fucking christ. and the basic sentiment -- fundamentally, what kind of government are we; the answer to that question influences/determines the answer to all other policy questions -- is not only broadly correct, but one that basically everyone in the field is running on (with different answers on what the best kind of government therefore is)

inspirational stuff

I can't wait until this godforsaken primary is over because at least there might be marginally fewer outbreaks of BEC

that'd be fuck Blue no matter who

So...the same thing you say here 50 times a day already?

Blue no matter who is a Gen Election slogan that people shouldn't be fuckin trotting out during primaries imo

is this where I say that while pete sucks, the mass dunking on that "the shape of our democracy is the issue that affects every other issue" quote is completely fucking ridiculous. it's like nobody has encountered a metaphor in their lives, not everything is a literal statement particularly in oratory, jesus fucking christ. and the basic sentiment -- fundamentally, what kind of government are we; the answer to that question influences/determines the answer to all other policy questions -- is not only broadly correct, but one that basically everyone in the field is running on (with different answers on what the best kind of government therefore is)

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, February 7, 2020 12:29 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

people are clowning on it becuase "the issue that affects ever other issue" is terrible writing

*because

Butty & Bloomie both badly need [redacted]

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the claim that you can only trust the Dem moderates to make reasonable promises *and* deliver on them--a line regurgitated by everyone who is allowed to be the "liberal" on TV--should perhaps be reconsidered in light of a major Clinton backer's bullshit empire of deceit

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) February 7, 2020

not really, the only questionable part of it is "the" (there are probably more than one) but everything else is fine, writing-wise

he's going for poetry, and repeating the word "issue" makes it feel like a same-word rhyme

which would be relevant if it were, in fact, a poem

this is like that thing going around trashing a bunch of lyrics from wicked including "bridges you've crossed you never knew you crossed until you crossed" -- there are a lot of horrible lines but that isn't one of them. repetition for emphasis and effect is a valid writing device, and doesn't stop being so just because the guy who sucks decided to use it

He was heavily inspired by Rick Ross

the problem is it's Butty and he wants a McKinsey shape to democracy

Butteigeig Rockin

the problem is the pablum never mind the syntax

that must be why everyone is tweeting "lol he said shape what could that mean [ed sheeran lyrics]"

The best possible response to Trump is to just say "Shut up, asshole," and go right back to talking about what you were talking about. Sanders is one-note enough to make this work.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, February 7, 2020 9:37 AM bookmarkflaglink

Too highbrow. It should be more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ1BVoUdaVU

remember when this guy was getting clowned for having no specifics and then he was like OK 26 SUPREME COURT JUDGES MON-WED

or was that beto i don’t remember

I forgot all about Beto after he dropped out

What the hell is this.

Trump was in rare form during his post-acquittal speech. pic.twitter.com/jq8NTTn5yd

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 6, 2020

whatever it is, it got you to share it

Not convinced that's a winning strategy tbh, partly because of how disconnected it seems from the pseudo-persona Bloomberg is going for. Trump otoh is a meming troll so when he indulges it serves to cement his narrative 'coherence'.

Who is the "major Clinton backer" that Pareene is talking about in that tweet?

Weinstein, I assume.

this sucks infinitely worse than any Sheeran word salad:

as far as i can tell pete is the only one who skipped like half the questions? https://t.co/XjqrU8zgqu pic.twitter.com/8QlG9d7hyz

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) February 7, 2020

can't lose on the policy front if you don't have any :)

I assumed Tara McGowan, architect of ACRONYM/Shadow (to most), given AP's latest piece

The people who said they were going to beat Donald Trump in 2020 by emulating his supposedly highly sophisticated digital targeting operation have instead emulated Trump by turning their campaigns into a lucrative grift for a small group of well-connected party insiders. And, because this is the Democrats we are talking about, they did so by burning enormous sums of money that could have done untold good, politically and strategically, had they been used for just about anything else.

https://newrepublic.com/article/156496/democrats-embrace-grift

xxp

Would you consider military force for a humanitarian intervention?

Sanders's Answer
Yes.

Would you consider military force to pre-empt an Iranian or North Korean nuclear or missile test?

Sanders's Answer
Yes.

ok this answer is kinda hilarious tho

Should the United States Embassy in Israel be moved from Jerusalem back to Tel Aviv?

Sanders's Answer
Not as a first step. But it would be on the table if Israel continues to take steps, such as settlement expansion, expulsions and home demolitions, that undermine the chances for a peace agreement.

he wouldn't move back the embassy except as a punishment

liz says something similar!

If Israel takes steps counter to peace, I am prepared to freeze or reverse the limited embassy functions that have moved to Jerusalem.

where did this CW come from? this is the first time i'm seeing the idea - before i thought the sanders position was "i would move it back" iow contingent on nothing. this is far more clever imo. moving it back immediately is unlikely to generate particularly useful or positive responses but you also don't want to be like "no i guess trump + bibi just win this round" so predicating it on punishment even tho that seems like a silly ideological approach (either you think it should be there or shouldn't) but it does serve this pragmatic political purpose.

disappointing obviously, but might keep AIPAC off his ass til September

lol wishful thinking

it's like nobody has encountered a metaphor in their lives, not everything is a literal statement particularly in oratory, jesus fucking christ. and the basic sentiment -- fundamentally, what kind of government are we; the answer to that question influences/determines the answer to all other policy questions -- is not only broadly correct, but one that basically everyone in the field is running on (with different answers on what the best kind of government therefore is)

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)

The shape of my ass is the issue that affects every part of the sofa. https://t.co/foCZxeLn6K

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) February 7, 2020

katherine OTM

is this where I say that while pete sucks, the mass dunking on that "the shape of our democracy is the issue that affects every other issue" quote is completely fucking ridiculous. it's like nobody has encountered a metaphor in their lives, not everything is a literal statement particularly in oratory, jesus fucking christ. and the basic sentiment -- fundamentally, what kind of government are we; the answer to that question influences/determines the answer to all other policy questions -- is not only broadly correct, but one that basically everyone in the field is running on (with different answers on what the best kind of government therefore is)

Imo, it is broadly correct but also banal and vague. It is a statement that literally any politician in any democracy could make and doesn't amount to very much unless they are actually giving their answers on what the best kind of government is. Using lots of pretty words to say very little is p much what I get out of PB every time he speaks, which is why I rmde at this.

Mayor Pete asks - is our children learning?

Sund4r otm

So according to Chris Matthews calling the mayor out on his billionaire donor base is “swiftboating.”

lol he then demanded that Sanders surrogate explain why this issue is being raised "only now"—"isn't because this guy has caught up with you in the polls??!"

and guy was like "yeah." It's...an election?

I know it goes w/o saying but what a straight idiot this guy is