Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

yeah people should stop making a big deal about how the DNC are incompetent and corrupt

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:49 PM (fifty-seven seconds ago

And this thinking depressed turnout for Clinton in 2016

in b4 "clinton depressed turnout on her own"

anyway, what a clusterfuck, glad we're all experts here

I'm already depressed.

National media and the three top finishers have moved on to New Hampshire. It hasn't fazed me after Tuesday.

Wasn't the primary between Hilary and Barack rife with issues too?

by all means the primary should move on. purely in delegate terms this is not going to make any difference.

but "everyone pretend the DNC is good at facilitating the improvement of the democratic party's political platform, financial health and electoral chances because it's an election year" feels like "now is not the time to politicize a tragedy" after a shooting spree. _now_ is exactly the time, because it not now then we all know it will be the same next time.

^OTFM

none of these fucking idiots should be allowed near any kind of presidential campaign

people are going to continue failing upwards unless they're held to account precisely when other people are paying attention.

as the local IDP representative I am calling on Tom Perez to piss up a rope

people are going to continue failing upwards unless they're held to account precisely when other people are paying attention.

Fixed that for u

Dems really need to quit overplaying the Iowa caucus as a major crisis. It's playing into a narrative of incompetency of the entire party, rather than that one state's DNC. It pulls focus.

Obviously it's important to fix the issue and determine the accurate totals and find a way to avoid it in the future. It's not a "non-issue" per se.

But fellow Dems reacting like this is a humongous crisis that will sink 2020 if WE DON'T GET ANSWERS SOON aren't helping. The bungled caucus happened. When things like that happen, the right thing to do is slow things down, take them apart, and make sure to certify the result and that you declare the right delegate counts for each person.

The tradeoff is we don't get the instant gratification we usually get with results, but oh well.

If I were to believe some crazy Dems, 2020 is over due to Iowa and impeachment acquittal. I ain't got time for Nihilist Eeyore

Just as a reminder, every hotly contested presidential nomination race gets ugly. In 20th century sports-inspired political parlance, the gloves always come off quickly and it's bare knuckles right up to the convention.

I ain't got time for Nihilist Eeyore

sorry Morbs ;_;

IMO a certain amount of kicking-up-a-fuss is useful to incentivize staffers to not fuck up any of the others

failing upwards

over the past week this phrase finally qualified for the “words, usages” thread, congratulations everyone

When I see rampant speculation about buttigieg stealing the election I def think this is some constructive criticism that will make the party stronger

but "everyone pretend the DNC is good at facilitating the improvement of the democratic party's political platform, financial health and electoral chances because it's an election year" feels like "now is not the time to politicize a tragedy" after a shooting spree. _now_ is exactly the time, because it not now then we all know it will be the same next time.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:57 PM bookmarkflaglink

We should absolutely do these things internally. I just want it out of earshot of our opponents

Yeah no shit

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Keep freaking out, dudes.

People are posting too fast

IMO a certain amount of kicking-up-a-fuss is useful to incentivize staffers to not fuck up any of the others

This literally never works in any context ever.

What DOES work is sober post-mortems where the people who fucked up feel empowered to admit to their mistakes without fear of being pilloried, which allows people to actually own up to their contributions to the problem rather than managing their defensiveness.

Keep freaking out, dudes.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 6, 2020 6:05 PM (eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not a dude, asshole

I ain't freaked. Yesterday I actually had my panic attacks about completely unrelated personal issues for once lol

Xpost whoa

'rampant speculation Buttigeig stole the election' is in the eye of the beholder. are you talking rampant on twitter? fb? fox? msnbc?

My apologies, latenloomer. This thread is rife with them.

Twitter fb and ilx xp

Sanders' statement is clear and even-headed so far.

Xpost yea I've spotted several convos saying Buttigieg rigged the primary already. I usually stopped reading at that point

I really doubt anyone is going to be talking much about any of this in a week or two, even most of the conspiracists

Yea it's gonna be forgotten quickly

let's hope so

After Trump accuses Sanders of being a space alien or having shot Billy the Kid or some shit

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Billy the Kid was racist/Confederate terrorist so that sounds about right

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-06/trump-fans-flooded-iowa-caucus-hotline-top-democrat-says

hrrm

I do think people who posted paperwork with phone numbers/security PIN online deserve a week in the stocks

This is going to be forgotten in exactly the same way the DNC's treatment of Sanders in 2016 was forgotten, or the resentment over Sanders' perceived slowness in endorsing Hillary Clinton, or Clinton's tactics in the 2008 primary against Obama has been forgotten

From what I see on twitter there is an awareness from the people saying conspiracy on how an awful a look it is. But there is (rightly) a lot of investment, it's not going to take a lot to go from distrust to something else.

The Des Moines Register not showing the last poll was unfortunate, more so than seemed at the time. Probably hasn't helped

Yes.

A lot didn't help!

Sanders is going after Bloomberg. You love to see it.

I do!!

My apologies, latenloomer. This thread is rife with them.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 6, 2020 6:08 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Apology accepted, and I apologize for calling you asshole.

I’m feeling a bit testier than normal these days:-/

maybe the best bet for the country is Bloomberg winning the General, that way Republicans and Dems can unite in their hatred of a mediocre President.

Sanders is going after Bloomberg. You love to see it.

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:19 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

burn him to the ground bernie

What DOES work is sober post-mortems where the people who fucked up feel empowered to admit to their mistakes without fear of being pilloried, which allows people to actually own up to their contributions to the problem rather than managing their defensiveness.

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this isn’t a morbidity and mortality conference, man. disassociate from the people who fucked this up and change the caucus to a primary like a normal fucking state

I’ve heard that the DNC has already been helping with the caucus ballot recounts which makes Perez’s tweet even weirder