US Politics, February 2020. They want to kill your cows.

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it will start using machine learning algorithms to separate the “historic” from the “temporary.”

lmao I would love to hear someone describe to me how this works holy crap

rob, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

But now the State Department is cutting archivists completely out of the process: Instead, it will start using machine learning algorithms to separate the “historic” from the “temporary.” Going forward, vernacular can only be created for temporary materials (with the help of vernacular specialists) and can't be replicated or used for reproducing the original language.

As an aside: After a long hiatus and a lot of fightback (including from native-speakers), the (two-year-old) "Minority Title" initiative has now abandoned its "one language, one picture" claim, instead focusing on "ancient materials and databases on the historical importance of a particular language."

And so an entirely new language for the US

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

When in doubt, ask Transformer.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

this seems like a plum contract for some vastly overvalued software company founded by the coked-out scion of an inbred republican dynasty, can't wait to see what their algorithm decides is worth preserving for future generations

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

Breaking: Contents of the National Archives to be replaced wholesale with printouts of Trump tweets.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

Pressley and AOC boycotting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pelosi's sour grapes-looking speech rip

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

don't care really

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

Karl I've never seen Pelosi slur words or seem me disoriented like Trump does frequently, do you have examples?

not slurring, but just the typical things that happen as people get really old. but that wasn't even my point. i was really drunk last night (big surprise - this whole fucking world BLOWS for everyone except for people with rich families who can afford to take subsidized vacations on a monthly basis to get away from living hell, so all one can do is take yourself out of it whenever possible) and failed to make my point, which was that this whole obsession with trying to prove trump's impending/current dementia is MADDENING and COMPLETELY USELESS. i don't even care if it's true or if it could be true, it's just the spectacle of being so completely OWNED by the dumbest people and a venal corrupt political party that all we can do is maybe just hope that the president has actually lost his mind and maybe people will realize that and cart him off to a hospital or whatever. it's just sad, this is the crap we're left with, it's pathetic

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

He direderd the December dersalt.

Goost my Japenese spice and hent mee your day,

Ween me that, both I and oure love gon,

Nedels, mee dat thou tel, thou hast never saide."

"Yea, he hende her and drew mee,

In the best of werkes, lefte my cryes."

"Thou madest 'cause that the Queene

Was gone away fro this place,

The pestilence deepe, and at home,

And to thee hou sheeldid be,

Where'es we cannae set his knave a-qu

Evan, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

sorry. i'm just mad at myself. i did poorly in a job interview last night, in an attempt to find some other shitty job that will pay marginally better than my current one so i try to dig myself out of shitdebt mountain.

it's hard to pivot from that back to susan collins

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

the obsession with trump's dementia really does drive me batty though

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

don't care really

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:56 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

idk, the fact that people are just talking about Pelosi ripping up the speech seems fine to me? Trump's approval is at an all-time high, he's about to get acquitted, the economy is peaking yet again, the Iowa shit was a disaster for Dems, it's not a bad thing that people are focusing on a BrEaCh Of Decorum instead

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

I agree with your point and also as applied to rest of the desperation that fuels resistance-porn discourse.

xps

Evan, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

Pelosi ripping the speech annoyed me. Not her fault—she did try to impeach him, but that failing it felt like an empty gesture, aimed at exciting #resistance idiots on twitter

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

it was her version of killing soleimani

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

IDC that much about the speech rip either.

Obsession with Trump's "dementia" is just another flavor of obsession with his "stupidity" "unfitness" "indecency" or whatever, as though there's some invisible, objective arbiter of presidentialness and if only we can make a strong enough case the judgment will be rendered from above. So long as Trump helps the Republican party and their goals more than he hurts them, he will have their unwavering support. Some resistance folks just CANNOT stop banging their head against this wall though, it's like a reflex.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

speech rip will accomplish precisely nothing

like most of Grancy's career

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

FWIW, I don't mean for those quotation-marked things to all be in the same category. I think the reflexive "haha he misplaced Kansas City" tweets are a lot worse and more harmful than, e.g., reminding people of his abhorrent behavior towards women, which should be repeated. It's just the expectation that if only we can find the right "he went too far" item it will somehow flip enough "decent conservatives" to chang ehte political winds that makes me lose it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

ah now morbs i'll be sarcastically clapping while we drown in seawater

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

ahh yes, only actions that singlehandedly bring down the throne of Trump are worth discussing. it's so easy, any of us could do it. why aren't we the speakers?

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

. I think the reflexive "haha he misplaced Kansas City" tweets are a lot worse

Yep, because this is why his fans love him.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

either you liked it, you hated it, or you didn't care, but it ain't gonna fuckin' hurt anything, so not exactly worth writing a thinkpiece about

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link

I don't suspect many people actually gaf about the KC thing as much as enjoyed trolling because by now we all know he and his ilk will never admit he's wrong and will find hilarious ways to double down.

I mean...there is no convincing his base, and beyond that, most lifer Republicans, so maybe we can stop pretending that's our goal. it's always been about more moderate Republicans, Independents, and mobilizing our own vote for the Democrats.

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

She should have spit in his face.

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

that I might have given a standing O for

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

Pelosi ripping the speech annoyed me. Not her fault—she did try to impeach him, but that failing it felt like an empty gesture, aimed at exciting #resistance idiots on twitter

― treeship., Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:34 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was her version of killing soleimani

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes)

i loled

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

Yep, because this is why his fans love him.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 5, 2020 11:41 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

And we've been here before! We did the exact same thing through two terms of W, except there was no twitter.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

the idea that the KC tweets or any of this "lol look how stupid he is" posts are harmful at all is offtm. a waste of time? ok, sure. but there aren't massive scores of potential convert voters scouring Twitter and saying "y'know, these guys mocking Trump are jerks, I'm gonna vote for him in 2020".

yeah, we can all be devoting 20 hours of every day focusing on the more substantive terrible things he does and exposing everybody to them (and most of us do), but sometimes people are just tired and wanna have a cheap Nelson Muntz "haha" laugh. these things aren't mutually exclusive. focusing on them is almost as pointless as the original "haha KC" tweets themselves.

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

He really does deserve it. The Ukraine thing isn’t what I would have staked the impeachment on, but it really was jaw-dropping that he dangled 400 million of taxpayer money over a foreign leader’s head in exchange for (manufactured) oppo (he knew there was nothing to the burisma stuff or the crowdstrike stuff)

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

xpost are you familiar with 'coping mechanisms'?

yes, he absolutely deserves being spat on. otm. I wish we could start a campaign to do it, only to see his reaction on live tv.

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

i imagine she was thinking, during his speech, about if and how she should react to the handshake snub at the beginning of the proceedings. i don't blame her for ripping up the speech, i'm ambivalent about it. how do you respond to a bully? you can try to rise above it, ignore it, etc. she and most other democratic leaders have gone that route. sometimes you have to fight the bully, or at least stand up for yourself. that's why people hate bullies - they force you into a shitty situation you didn't want where no matter what you do, it's sort of wrong

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

She could have walked out before the speech

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

shoved pence off the edge on her way out

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

Endless options

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

yeah, exactly. i don't really dig this thing where Dems microanalyze every minor event like the speech rip or the alleged "mocking clapping" in terms of 'what it means for 2020'. It was a cool optic moment, it doesn't 'mean' anything, and who really cares?

this is Howard Dean scream level whinging.

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

xxxposts to Malone

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

I think trump gets sympathy when it seems he is the target of classist attacks on his erudition

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

from who?

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

xp -- I guess I don't really believe they are effective "coping mechanisms" so much as passive aggressive energy diversions. They seem like symptoms of a losing mindset to me, where we snicker rather than effectively confront. But at the end of the day I agree snuffing out "lol Kansas" type tweets is not a high priority.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

From his supporters. They identify with the perception that the eggheads and elites of ilx and congress look down on him.

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

who cares about his supporters?

ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

xp

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

I mean, this is the game he played—the way he got supporters. Self pity is his favorite hobby and he took his people along for the ride. It’s “done” at this point but this is a huge part of his appeal

treeship., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

I think it's less that he gets sympathy and more that democrats look like petty, spiteful nerds.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link

I understand, on the one hand, being frustrated by the futility of pointing out Trump's obvious mental decline, given how little it matters in any substantive way and the fact that he would still be a sitting president with comparable approval even if he were just constantly writhing on the ground covered in his own shit. But on the other hand, I think there's real utility (perhaps not utility with any immediate impact but something that is hopefully cumulative) in pointing out that THIS IS NOT NORMAL OR OKAY any/every time it occurs to you that this is not normal or okay, even if it's the eleventy-millionth time that someone has pointed out that instances of this particular phenomenon are not normal or okay. Because the alternative, it seems, is to eventually lapse into a defeated shrug and allow the abnormal to become normalized, if only via entropy born of exhaustion. The bar has already fallen to a dangerously low level, so I'd hate to see it plummet further because people are tired of bitching about all of the things that are obviously wrong with our Commander-in-Queef.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

And we've been here before! We did the exact same thing through two terms of W, except there was no twitter.

totally forgot how we started the year on the precipice of pointless armageddon, fml

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

for a guy who is collapsing mentally and has no idea what he is doing or how to form sentences, he did manage to read out a very long, prepared speech to millions of people, live, without messing up too badly, which is more than i could expect of most people, including myself

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

I guess if the real issue is legitimate concern for his mental fitness, that's not conveyed very well by lulz tweets about "He direderd the December dersalt."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

ugh meant to c&p the soleimani ref

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link


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