itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

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To know beauty one must live with it is def the motto of this thread

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:22 (four years ago) link

https://live.staticflickr.com/3015/4557012334_83d28a8020.jpg

Not a painting, but Frederick Hart's Ex Nihilo sculpture. It plays a big role in The Devil's Advocate. It supposedly had a detrimental effect on Hart's health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WdWH53nsu8

Wikipedia:

In 1997, Washington National Cathedral asked Hart to join a lawsuit accusing a major motion picture company of copyright infringement for the appropriation of Ex Nihilo in the 1997 film The Devil's Advocate.[41] Over the course of the initial proceedings, "it soon became clear that the filmmakers had simply placed Ex Nihilo on a computer template, removed one figure, and then manipulated the figures."[42]

However, Hart was cautious because in the 1990s plaintiffs in suits against major corporations were sometimes ridiculed in the media as part of public relations campaigns funded by the corporations themselves.[43] "During sessions at US Federal Court over the case that winter, the strain on Hart was wincingly visible."[44] As stress and mounting legal fees took a toll on Hart's health, in 1998, he suffered a stroke.[45]

A federal judge ruled that unless a settlement could be reached the film's video release would be delayed until the case went to trial; the motion picture company then agreed to edit the scene for future releases, and to attach stickers to unedited videotapes to indicate they intended no relation between the sculpture in the film and Hart's work.[46]

After his stroke, “Hart had pursued a rigorous regimen of physical therapy to regain the use of his left arm. He worked as arduously on his rehabilitation as he had on any work he ever created. Expecting to recover fully, he continued to sculpt almost every day… He was unaware that cancer was invading his body. Three weeks before he died, he became debilitated by pneumonia. It wasn’t until a couple of days before the end that the rapidly spreading cancer was discovered.”[45]

Hart died on August 13, 1999, two days after doctors at Johns Hopkins Hospital diagnosed him with cancer.[15]

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link

"to know beauty one must live with it"
— akasha, queen of the damned

https://i.imgur.com/TUl3MBy.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

http://paintingsinmovies.com/ir/5/354.jpg

Bacon's 'Figure with Meat (Head Surrounded by Sides of Beef)' in Batman.

The painting is featured in a scene where the Joker and his henchmen destroy several works of art. However, the Joker spares Figure with Meat, saying, "I kind of like this one, Bob. Leave it.". Jack Nicholson as the Joker then sits down with Kim Basinger and has a discussion where he declares, "I am the world's first fully functioning homicidal artist."

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

that haircut is a work of art in its own right

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link

baggyAG

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link

I went to an exhibition of these paintings in Shoreditch years ago... oh, and "Aphrodite at the Waterhole" was there two.

https://bigfatarts.com/pages/shapeism

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link

Don't know about shapeism, I thought the paintings were supposed to be of the Infantile School.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:39 (four years ago) link

Can't believe I'm first to post this. It falls into the 'excellent' category, like the novel but unlike the film:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Fabritius-vink.jpg

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

Surprised nobody has mentioned The Quince Tree Sun yet

Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

ppl aren't mentioning these actual real paintings by actual real painters bcz the fake and terrible paintings made for movies are better and it explodes the lie of art

https://www.billboard.com/files/media/lionel-richie-hello-video-1984-billboard-650.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

(by all means carry posting real art by real artists tho, let the explosion continue!)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:02 (four years ago) link

I would expect sculpture to be much more common in film than painting, though I’m not sure why; sculpture as mise en scene seems more natural.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

i haven't seen it for c.25 years but some of gillies mackinnon's small faces (no relation) was filmed at the glasgow school of art and used paintings almost as intertitles, if i'm remembering correctly. i can't find any links on the net, googling small faces paintings brings up nightmares redolent of illustrations feat.paul weller that make you think

(at the time i didn't think it worked especially well but i was speed-watching as part of a project abt pat barker's regeneration -- his next film -- so might just have been not in the mood for whatever it was aiming at. and the fact of it as a device has clearly stuck with me)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pVHnCJX.jpg?1
https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/doctorwho-dragonfire4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yad4JQF.jpg?1

Edward Peel's villain delivering this dramatic monologue in front of the rubbish ice statue of his dead wife in an episode of Dr Who

A work of artistry, my friend. Incandescent artistry. I could almost believe Xana lives again. A unique beauty, yes, but more than that, a criminal genius also. Oh, what a waste. It should have been I who was killed escaping arrest, not you. The whole of eternity has held its breath for this moment. But no one must ever see your work. It exists, that is enough. No one can ever look upon your work and live. Gaze on it and die fulfilled.
(Kane places his bare hands on the sculptor's face and freezes him to death.)

soref, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

is that an ice organ i spy in the background? this was an aesthetically rich episode, it has bricolage and everything: "One of the guard's lines, about the "semiotic thickness of a performed text", is a quotation from Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text, a 1983 media studies volume by John Tulloch and Manuel Alvarado. Story editor Andrew Cartmel had suggested that writers read The Unfolding Text to familiarise themselves with Doctor Who and its history, which inspired Ian Briggs to quote the academic text in his script"

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd9U3ecCcAAnBiM.jpg

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link

Are those Staffies in the GoodFellas painting?

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link

ah sorry I only just noticed you literally referenced the two dogs photo in the og post!

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link

don't apologise the thread needed the picture!

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:15 (four years ago) link

This is from the game not the show but it looks exactly the same
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/c/c8/Grossbergoffice.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20151016234529

hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link

pleased to report btw that data's picture from PICARD -- aka the threadstarter -- remains the worst in the thread (and also galactic cultural history)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link

What about the paintings Data painted in TNG?

https://i.stack.imgur.com/du4by.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/rHJIj.jpg

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link

If, like me, you're somewhat of a Niven fan and haven't heard of that movie, it's because it's awful.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link

xp to tuomas: they're not as bad (they're very bad, the top one less so maybe, but they're not as bad)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

That top one toumas posted looks like hockney vomiting acyrilic paint in anger over one of his worst paintings

calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:38 (four years ago) link

is it a picture of the charge of the light brigade? the LB as vomited bright red acrylic wd be good art praxis if so

(i like when data's approach is overly algorithmic tho, someone is paying attention in the correct directions even if the picture comes out crappy) (this does not apply to the threadstarter which is in the "spooky resemblance of ancestor to current character" mode lol)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link

The statues in Robert wise’s the Haunting are good: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/3RCr3le

Though expanding to sculpture risks overwhelming the topic with statues of Christ.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

statues of christ sculpted by data are welcome

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:05 (four years ago) link

the secret history of st:tng is that it's actually a seven-season polemic about how synthetic life is bad not good (cf data actively threatening the lives of the crew on multiple occasions and being bafflingly reinstated to his vitally important duties after every single one) and his shit-ass paintings are one of the major clues that something is profoundly and unredeemably RONG with him

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

As far as Dark Shadows goes, there is a painting that features more prominently in the bits I am (I’m exactly halfway through the series now) - Cassandra’s portrait. https://images.app.goo.gl/32WQKrq5hXSjmTr19 Which is...not great. Barnabas’ is clearly better.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link

Good rundown of all the Dark Shadows portraits, good, bad and hideously ugly:

http://dsb4idie.blogspot.com/p/old-house-portraits_8.html

Josefa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

Thanks for that link, Josefa!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

If we're expanding the field to include other artistic media might I throw jackietreehornsketch.jpg into the ring

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

loved this film as a kid

https://i.imgur.com/fY4V8BD.jpg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

From 'Dr. No' (1962), a painting of the Duke of Wellington that had been stolen in 1961.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/d4/05/84d40597db91634668b245236d09e6ca.jpg
Not a plot point as such, but it adds to Dr. No's characterisation as a high end criminal.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

Also "that painting from 'Skyfall'", also known as 'The Fighting Temeraire'.
https://paintingvalley.com/images/skyfall-painting-21.png
Again not really a plot point, more of a character/relationaship development point between Bond and Q.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

'Skyfall' also has another painting in it, which itself is a reference to the stolen painting gag in 'Dr. No'.
http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/view/id/56

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

Reminded me of this:

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/07/img_8567.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

Ghostbusters 2 was mentioned already of course, but forgot about this one

https://i.etsystatic.com/6958508/r/il/028757/1140560861/il_570xN.1140560861_d6uq.jpg

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link


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