Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Party caucuses are way messier to run than piggybacking a primary election onto the state's existing elections apparatus.

thoughts and prayers to all middle/high school students whose well-intentioned social studies teachers gave them homework to make like a bar graph of the primary results

xp

they are if you are a credulous DNC official who hires grifters to build an app. the caucuses themselves went fine.

Counting is hard. Whats wrong with paper ballots again?

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these are correct takes

There is already a great, deliberate effort to flame the fans of conspiracy riding the Iowa screwup wave. 2020 can be an unmitigated disaster. I still cannot believe that they decided to do this via an app. The levels of incompetence required to make that decision are staggering.

— zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) February 4, 2020

A phone app programmed by a small shop for a single purpose, which isn't vetted by the outside, world might be buggy. Might not be intuitive. It was probably a dumb idea to use it, and plenty of people said that before tonight, but that doesn't suggest anything's hacked.

— Kevin Collier (@kevincollier) February 4, 2020

@nataliejmooney @degg @BronzeHammer i fuvked up. this app is garbage. sorry

— wint (@dril) December 12, 2015

I got 99 counties but a glitch won’t run

I don't think anybody summed up the anger and the chaos of tonight better than Wolf Blitzer just a minute ago: "You and I should be at the magic wall right now, John."

who’s angry other than freaks glued to the news

Or on the news

otm

i'm angry because

1) the usual suspects are saying this proves the 2020 primary is "rigged", which has an incremental effect on public trust, turnout, etc. each time it happens, and creates space for misinformation.

2) i have worked with bay area tech idiots who moved directly into civic tech and are now fucking things like this up for a profit. thanks i hate them.

everything i learned about crisis comms comes from veep, but even i know the iowa democratic party would be much better served if they would, er, try to communicate and provide some sort of timeline. jake tapper in a range trance referred to them as a "tragedy of systemic incompetence"

i don't care if CNN have to rethink their schedule.

range rage

That was a tongue-in-cheek post, Silby...but you may be overlooking the candidates, who I'm guessing--not publically, but actually--are very angry.

Three different sources say a firm called "Shadow" developed the Iowa Dem caucus app. They haven't responded to comment, neither has Iowa Dem Party. The firm was paid by both Nevada & Iowa Democratic Party, disclosures show. Also by Mayor Pete's campaign.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) February 4, 2020

who is stoked for NEVADA?!?!

oh good

Important - Biden camp saying results might not be trusted. https://t.co/1s54raKv4A

— Rick Klein (@rickklein) February 4, 2020

apparently pete just made a speech declaring victory?

oh god

I think I just figured out that I have met the story county guy who called into CNN to say he was on hold with the reporting office, only to lose his chance to report because he was busy talking to Wolf Blitzer, who then apparently then called into MSNBC

he... likes attention iirc

argh yeah caek I see your point re: legitimacy

watching the opening excommunicado moments of john wick 3 and i think the dnc could learn a thing or two

CNN, which only showed a minute or two of Warren's speech, is showing the entirety of pete's really long ass speech

I really can't stomach this guy

Iowa, you have shocked the nation.

By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious. #IowaCaucuses

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) February 4, 2020

have to imagine this at least means pete's internal reporting has him as the winner

Shadow hired to ratfuck iowa. cool beans

xp he was sadly dominating the dsm suburbs i heard about : /

victorious means more than 15% imo

Xp pete is full of shit and helped pay for this “result”

let me see if I can get some results to post

Everybody take a deep breath ffs

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_software.png

Yeah it is time to log off for real

There’s dozens more of these

Urbandale Pct 02 Final:
Pete 104
Biden 64
Bernie 62
Warren 56

DSM pct 59 final: Ingersoll/S Grand.
Warren 153 (3 del.)
Bernie 158 (4 del.)
Pete 164 (4 del.)

P07 Round 1:
Bernie 91
Warren 48
Pete 43


Des Moines 33 (delegates)
Sanders 3
Biden 2
Buttigieg 1

DSM 43 & 15
Warren top (?)

Ankeny 6
Pete, 3 way tie with Biden, Warren, and Klobuchar, then Sanders


Council Bluffs, unknown precinct (delegates)
Pete 4
Amy 4
Warren 3
Bernie 3


Des Moines 81 (delegates)
Bernie - 3
Pete - 2
Joe - 2

German television 😵 pic.twitter.com/aYLctNddnj

— Niki Paumi (@niki_paumi) February 3, 2020

a cuomo is on cnn about to fucking explode

i don't usually watch cable tv other than debates or election results and things of that nature, so this slide into their regular programming is really fucking weird. i mean this is a bad night for the iowa democratic party for sure but cuomo seems like he wants blood. his face is bright red and he looks like he hasn't slept in 36 hours

So how's things been going tonight? Any news?

I can't stand Cuomo, KM, but I'm watching and not seeing that--he seems relatively calm next to the panel they just had on there.

release the sanders cut

xp

it's not from tonight, but this is pretty much how he looked earlier:

https://i.imgur.com/D9UK3sD.jpg

to me that looks like a desperate man begging for help

he looked a lot crankier though, tonight

mfw i get called the fredo

THE LOG IN PIN IS LITERALLY BEING TWEETED OUT BY THIS MORON https://t.co/CZvjI0Nxkb

— Liv (@LivPosting) February 4, 2020

I was wondering if that dude calling cnn was about to give a pin or other authentication verbally while on the air with wolf blitzer

still waiting confirmation on whether he is a dumbass I have met

The computer voting artist might want to go back in and edit the first panel a bit.

Caucus data released by Bernie Sanders campaign. #Bernie2020 #IowaCaucuses pic.twitter.com/yTVtBw6YJl

— Farhan Mumtaz (@farhanmumtaz) February 4, 2020

life comes at you fast

Incredible. pic.twitter.com/mly27zQu9O

— Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) February 4, 2020

I can't fathom the depths of the campaigns' frustration, but it doesn't help when those campaigns scream RIGGED or one of its synonyms. This shit helps the president and muffles enthusiasm.