Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Updated statement from @iowademocrats on results pic.twitter.com/RAwOyXpc8H

— Iowa Starting Line (@IAStartingLine) February 4, 2020

Photos of results

yeah, those iowa counties are very pretty.

So the formula to apportion delegates is the total numbers after 2nd alignment x (the total number of delegates) / (the total of people at the caucus).

So these 2nd alignment numbers x 6 / 285

Sanders: 2.44
Warren: 1.72
Buttigieg: 1.53

That rounds out to two delegates each. pic.twitter.com/00QkeQ9nS1

— Shawn Sebastian 🐺🐴 (@shawnsebastian) February 4, 2020

left twitter is predictably mad about this... but it seems about as equitable as you can get in this stupid system.

Karl, thank you for appreciating our 99 counties.

hey, you betcha. i was born in one of those counties, in des moines. but not des moines county, that's not where des moines is. des moines is in polk county, near the middle - no, not that one, it's the rectangular one, no, below that, no, it's another kind of rectangle, not that one, if you actually start in the lower-left corner and count 4 up, then 6 bootheeled counties over to the right...oooh yeah. that's the goddamned capital

Good lord, I'd never watched any of Biden's speeches of late and that was pretty bad.

"we believe science over fiction!"

oof

which hospital, Karl? :)

uhh my friend’s wife is heading in to hand count the paper ballots at iowa democratic party hq

wait, two delegates each?

xp - left twitter doesn't have to coordinate running a campaign that operates under more than 50 sets of rules. the idea isn't to get mad at the rules, but to master them so they work in your favor to the maximum extent possible. Over and over again.

robby mook still somehow having an impact on elections and CNN reporting on said elections are the #1 and #2 reasons i've lost all hope in america ever really getting better

this reminds me of when i was on hold for 2+ hours to try to get on medicare, and then they hung up on me (as wolf blitzer distracted me)

STOP EVERYTHING and listen to this. You'll understand exactly what the problem is (not kidding). pic.twitter.com/w3sL0a1d1u

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 4, 2020

why don't they simply... add the votes of all iowans up, and then apportion delegates thusly? why do we have to make everything as weird and microscopic as possible?

Lmao the DNC app is literally made by an entity called “Shadow, Inc.” https://t.co/qx4lQSL3T6

— Butt Praxis (@buttpraxis) February 4, 2020

Very cool! pic.twitter.com/Kf4EH7jKqE

— Butt Praxis (@buttpraxis) February 4, 2020

our nation is a doomsday farce

xp to mh

i'm not sure! i was born in des moines but then my parents moved to jacksonville FL til i was 3. then back up to des moines county, IA (Burlington), then down to missouri so i could learn how to be creeped out by my neighbors. so anyway, i have zero local knowledge of des moines.

one of my friends just posted results from what would be her relatively sleepy precinct, so i doubt that the delays are all to be placed on the party and their app and reporting protocols and whatnot. i've had friends posting local results for the past couple few hours, but this is the latest yet.

Warren, Pete & Sanders teams are all logging their own results in their own apps which I would hope will get people to calm down about ratfucking.

I'm feeling mighty fine, personally.

The problem is not ratfucking. The problem is elections being run by incompetent marks depress turnout.

Bernie's ppl have numbers and he appears to be in good spirits. Good enough for bedtime.

I think these caucuses are being run almost entirely by volunteers. Same goes for elections where voters go to polling places. And the average age of poll workers is well over retirement age. Democracy in the USA has a huge component of DIY.

everyone running my precinct was very competent and remained friendly despite the voters fucking
some things up, and the fact we were in a small gym with one chair for every six people

The app wasn’t rolled out by volunteers though

*poll* workers in elections are generally retirement age, but nearly everyone working the caucus was in their 30s or 40s. some were people I hang out with!

xxxxpost i saw that shawn sebastian call live and thought if there's not a better bellwether for 4 more years of trump, i don't know what is.

none of those people fucked up. it's whoever was in charge of collecting the votes from all the individual caucuses. they made an app which sucks and doesn't work, there's a hotline (just one??) which everyone's on hold with, etc

xp

I've avoided CNN and only heard about their freak out second hand. I'll note that NYT has Bernie on top and Warren second and Biden at the bottom. I'm glad she's rebounded if that holds even though I decided last week I'd vote for Sanders over her.

Robbie Mook is going to be grifting the Democrats until we're all long in our grave. They'll upload his consciousness once we hit the singularity just so he can fuck up the 2102 election.

i don't know wtf nyt is reporting. 0% of precincts are in

i'd express caution on those nyt results, akm - it may be based on a tiiiiiiiiny sample of the actual results

I'll note that NYT has Bernie on top and Warren second and Biden at the bottom. I'm glad she's rebounded if that holds even though I decided last week I'd vote for Sanders over her.

― akm, Monday, February 3, 2020 11:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is based on almost no actual votes.

I recognized a few people in CNN footage, including someone I met last year who moved here to canvass for the ACLU

Is the app actually malfunctioning? Official sources are saying the app is fine but nonetheless caused “inconsistencies” in the data.

Is the app failing to function when it is properly used as designed? Or is the design just difficult to use? Or is the problem in poor training for its users? Or a mix of these?

I would imagine the NYT had people reporting at particular caucuses and recorded the final counts at those locations, which are read aloud

I think the app must be broken and they’re pointlessly lying

I was told by at least one Democratic aide here in Iowa that the app would reset if the screen wasn’t kept open.

— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) February 4, 2020

(WSJ)

xp

I’m not their biggest fan but this coverage is not the greatest look for the democratic party

Party caucuses are way messier to run than piggybacking a primary election onto the state's existing elections apparatus.

thoughts and prayers to all middle/high school students whose well-intentioned social studies teachers gave them homework to make like a bar graph of the primary results

xp

they are if you are a credulous DNC official who hires grifters to build an app. the caucuses themselves went fine.

Counting is hard. Whats wrong with paper ballots again?

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these are correct takes

There is already a great, deliberate effort to flame the fans of conspiracy riding the Iowa screwup wave. 2020 can be an unmitigated disaster. I still cannot believe that they decided to do this via an app. The levels of incompetence required to make that decision are staggering.

— zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) February 4, 2020

A phone app programmed by a small shop for a single purpose, which isn't vetted by the outside, world might be buggy. Might not be intuitive. It was probably a dumb idea to use it, and plenty of people said that before tonight, but that doesn't suggest anything's hacked.

— Kevin Collier (@kevincollier) February 4, 2020

@nataliejmooney @degg @BronzeHammer i fuvked up. this app is garbage. sorry

— wint (@dril) December 12, 2015

I got 99 counties but a glitch won’t run

I don't think anybody summed up the anger and the chaos of tonight better than Wolf Blitzer just a minute ago: "You and I should be at the magic wall right now, John."

who’s angry other than freaks glued to the news