bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

one of the negotiators during the Canada/EU deal gave birth to two children that had reached High School by its conclusion. I think Canada went through a few PMs as well. But they just casually keep throwing it about!

they didn't have our british pluck

GET THINGS DONE

https://twitter.com/multistoreyhi/status/1224330223325454337/photo/1

and who better to do those things than rory stewart, who did you know once walked across afghanistan and speaks dari

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP2x1d0XUAEbx9N?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

how genuinely original, he's cooking with gas is this fella!

what kind of monster would be AGAINST things getting done ffs, he's a dead cert

It's so predictable seeing Mayor Khan attacking the most right wing Tory govt of my lifetime.. sort of from the right really (re: criticising them for proposing to tax US tech giants). There might be more to it but because he's such a prime melt who I choose to see it like thus!

who

I fear the recent attacks in London are going to boost a line of argument over the next decade as follows

1. We can't take a risk on letting these men out on schedule let alone after only half the time served
2. We shouldn't have to spend taxpayers money incarcerating people who mean to kill us
3. So let's bring back capital punishment (price? you can't put a price on peace of mind) not only for crimes committed but also for those who could be considered potential lifelong threats (based on whatever evidence we decide) who's gonna stop us the ECJ lool

Tho how much that escalates depends on shifting ideas and priorities on what means to use to carry out attacks (e.g. DIY drones)

I'm surprised someone hasn't used a drone yet, potentially it could be relatively cheap and more deadly than an automatic weapon. But if they use a drone like I had it will be some random tree that gets it!

Similar to what gyac was saying over the weekend, it'd be nice to think that "fuck the basic tenets of the law, keep them locked up" would open up a schism in the Tory Party, but my money is on nah.

still unexplained: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident

it was aliens

https://i.postimg.cc/8kqW19dS/A761-B620-4-E9-C-47-C1-A503-A0-ADB4-D5-B5-C7.jpg

otm, but also aliens tho

https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/e/ec/Drone.png

drones are cryptids

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/5/57/Drone_SC1_GameAnim1.gif/revision/latest?cb=20080618160205

> Johnson gave his whole 45-minute speech and took questions without mentioning Brexit

there's also the straight to facebook video he did, bypassing any media scrutiny and this

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/03/brexit-news-boris--johnson-speech-barnier-cabinet-ministers-claims-uk-does-not-need-trade-deal-with-eu-ahead-of-pms-speech-live-news?page=with:block-5e3832ac8f08e1332473c354#block-5e3832ac8f08e1332473c354

where he's just tried to exclude some journalists from today's briefing, straight out of the trump playbook

tfw you can't even be bothered dealing with a supine press corps composed almost entirely of craven lickspittles

A source has called to say... this was a system that allowed Downing Street to provide extra information for the more serious, heavyweight journalists.

And that is also why Kberg and Pesto walked out oho

There is no such thing as 'inner' or 'outer'. But the most telling thing here is a civil servant, David Frost, was to be used for a politically directed selective briefing. Taxpayers' money being used for a politically directed briefing. https://t.co/i4mDKpcGAa

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) February 3, 2020

frost / nixin'

Imagine being Kevin Schofield, spending your entire life digging up every piece of dirt on Labour, listening to every whining, mewling melt MP, and then still being told to get out of a briefing by Downing Street.

— Kirei (@Kirei1984) February 3, 2020

yeah boris' hatred of the press isn't all bad right enough

i think Raab said "sub-Canada" or something yesterday i dunno i've been trying to ignore them

― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2020 13:58 (two hours ago) link

sub-Custos at best

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 February 2020 14:01 (two hours ago) link

Lol omg where do I sign up?!

tfw you can't even be bothered dealing with a supine press corps composed almost entirely of craven lickspittles

i think the worst part is that people like laura k and pesto DO have self-respect and geneuinely do think they're doing the hard job of holding the powerful accountable

they must be fucking thrilled to have the opportunity to demonstrate their moral superiority by walking out on a briefing and then go right back to scoffing at socialism on tv at the next available opportunity

Pretty sure Hannon wrote this imperialist bilge for the PM to spout earlier

We are re-emerging after decades of hibernation as a campaigner for global free trade.

And frankly it is not a moment too soon because the argument for this fundamental liberty is now not being made.

We in the global community are in danger of forgetting the key insight of those great Scottish thinkers, the invisible hand of Adam Smith, and of course David Ricardo’s more subtle but indispensable principle of comparative advantage, which teaches that if countries learn to specialise and exchange then overall wealth will increase and productivity will increase, leading Cobden to conclude that free trade is God’s diplomacy – the only certain way of uniting people in the bonds of peace since the more freely goods cross borders the less likely it is that troops will ever cross borders.

yes i too have read the wikipedia page for 'free trade' and am now being wanked off by the invisible hand

DHann sits on his hand til it goes numb and pretends it’s the invisible hand

also uk government: sanctions on iran are good, actually

also the uk government: the more freely goods cross borders the less likely it is that troops will ever cross borders

it's still 1919 in the world that speech inhabits, they mean white free trade

except that Brexit...... increases trade barriers? by definition?

speaking of shit (warning: mumsnet). The second question is from someone with T3rf in their name claiming Labour campaigners “didn’t want their vote”. Boo fucking hoo, you shit.

PS KS knows exactly what he’s doing with that picture.

speaking of shit (warning: mumsnet). The second question is from someone with T3rf in their name claiming Labour campaigners “didn’t want their vote”. Boo fucking hoo, you shit.

PS KS knows exactly what he’s doing with that picture.

I would 1st pref KS if he cynically manipulated mumsnet for votes and then used his lawyer connections to get them shut down for being a hate site. I mean jfc, the mod had to intervene before he’d even answered with

Thanks for comments on sex/gender identity etc. That's enough on that topic now - we expect there to be lots of questions for Keir on all kinds of issues and don't want this to become a single issue webchat. Please bear in mind also that we'll be applying the same principle to follow-up questions when we're live on Monday too.
Thanks
MNHQ

FOF was a founder editor of Mumsnet and spent years hating what it has become - she finally left last year with a huge stock payoff and is now retraining to do something useful.

I was at a meeting a couple of years back at Ravensthorpe sure start centre. And I was rather tickled that amongst the usual inspirational quotes from Facebook memes on the wall someone had gone to the bother of posting random shitpost quotes from mumsnet.

Ravensthorpe sure start centre

Oh so you support the Iraq war do you?!?!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/03/long-bailey-says-labour-jobs-will-be-based-on-merit-not-patronage?CMP

This is better from RLB.

Xp
Ah what's an illegal invasion and war of regime annihilation involving a huge pile of civilian corpses between friendly melts!

Can’t believe we only have two precious months left of MR Seumas Milne, RIP skinny king. Article is largely encouraging but if she wins & hires back Ayesha Hazarika or any of those fucking losers, I’m out.

"promising to “professionalise” the party if she becomes its next leader"

isn't that basically saying they were amateurs!

TBH I think a lot of the people in key positions around the leadership were pretty much incompetent.

I mean advisers etc, not Shadow Cabinet members here (give or take a Lavery/Burgon or two).

who was the one who had a bit of a strop back in november and said they were resigning because they are all useless, was it James Schneider whose interview was linked on here the other day?

I forgot the story, it came out via a leaked email i think.

Long-Bailey has the tacit backing of Corbyn, though he has not declared his public support for any candidate.

Graun still working hard for its cups of coffee

Andrew Fisher is who you're thinking of I think, Calz. He later wrote an editorial (for the Guardian?) outlining why he believed in Corbyn's project and why it was important to vote Labour.