i dunno man, i feel like.... if it's good enough put it on bbc 2. if it's too niche make it iplayer only. you don't need a whole channel.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
can you get i-player on freeview? I know it is probably a dumb question and there are other options etc.. but I've just never found it.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link
I could do without a lot of the stuff on 4 sure, and 95 percent of pop music docs or Edith Bowman gladhanding terrible Brit directors just feels v wrong, but I feel like they've used the existence of 4 to syphon off all the good and rigorous documentaries from BBC2 which has been reduced to god awful "people going about their everyday lives somewhere vaguely scenic" or Michael fucking Portillo docs. I guess if you axed 4 then 2 could go back to being a bit more grown up but I wouldn't hold my breath
Better use of iplayer would be a good strategy, yeah. Some of it feels a bit unkempt and uncared for at the moment. I think there's gonna be a smart tv accessible Sounds soon? That'll be a godsend tbh
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
Calz you can get iplayer with a smart tv or thru some games consoles
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
Yeah I think I've got a smart tv, but it always completely flummoxes me when I'm trying to find i-player! It probably would be easier using the PS4.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
Yeah if you've got a PS4 it should be straightforward I think, I used my PS3 for years before I got this telly
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
yeah you can install iPlayer for free from the playstation store.
Sounds is coming to various smart TV platforms and set-top boxes but it'll take a long time to reach all of them. there's a zillion slightly different versions of, say, Freeview Play, or YouView, one for each make/model of TV. i think a PS4 version of Sounds is still probably a long way off.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
Rise of the Nazis was quite good and shockingly on BBC2. Although it's currently not available on i-player even though it only went out last autumn. That's a common complaint I have with i-player because I'll either just deprive myself of precious viewing pleasure or maybe even just download a torrent of something I want to see rather than pay a penny for britbox on the chance they have content I've already paid for once that isn't currently on i-player.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Not that I always go looking for Nazi content, but Vol 2 of the Volker Ullrich Hitler biog drops next week!
― calzino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
If you donโt use iplayer they make you register an account
― steer karma (gyac), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
there's a zillion slightly different versions of, say, Freeview Play, or YouView, one for each make/model of TV.
lol not so smart
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
computers are dumb and they make people dumb
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
computers and television - never the twain should meet!
― calzino, Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link
OK maybe just shut it down
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link
I miss those days when you could kick a yuppie about in the street!
― calzino, Monday, 3 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link
I was living in a bedsit in plumstead/woolwich and doing a nightshift in a factory at the time this risible garbage aired originally, talk about different strokes for different folks! When you see all these pathetic melts creaming themselves over it, it reminds me why I'm such a sad angry old sad bastard!
― calzino, Monday, 3 February 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
I've got no ish with what other people enjoy really, but it's a bit much filling up one of the only channels I watch with some nostalgia soap.
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link
yeah it should be on Dave or some shit like that. but it had a quite a popular response from all the usual suspects when it was announced. obv they also love eternal loops of 80's totp.
― calzino, Monday, 3 February 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link
I didn't realise they're showing the whole fucking thing. Fffs
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
probably just testing the water for the jess phillips series that is coming soon.
― calzino, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
"Bab and Bougie"
― GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
tonight's Life Cinematic is Sam Taylor-Johnson. Talentless YBA and director of Fifty Shades of Grey and some sack of shit John Lennon biopic... really lads is this the best you can do?
― calzino, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
Joanna Hogg has done some decent work in recent years ... Mike Leigh is still breathing.. maybe there are some better contemporary examples .. but this shite following Sam Mendes is such craven garbage - it's almost like you might as well be owned by Murdoch.
― calzino, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
It was a banal silly idea from ep 1, not worrying, there's plenty of space for banal silly ideas in the world
― Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
why does it have to be specifically about brit directors? We already know most of them are posh talentless amateurs, don't need to hear their thoughts as well ffs
― calzino, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
well they're probly easier to get hold of but also some people treat movies like football teams
― Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link
The longer I lie here too apathetic to turn off Dominic Sandbrook the more ironic the discerning viewer gag gets
― babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
Stop giving Kermode work ffs
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
recently someone posted the entire list of Alex Cox's Moviedrome and it brought back happy memories and made me so glad I grew up watching that beautifully curated series rather than anything to do with this fucking idiot.
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
Although he did start turning up on my tv like a stale bank manager's fart in the early days of Film 4 :(
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
Feel like he wasn't always this bad but can't really remember when he wasn't.
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
when Film Four first launched as a channel he introduced me to The Exterminating Angel so he probably wasn't as bad as he is now, but I'm sure he always was a bad reader of movies but this is from vague memories.
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
Oh man remember the red triangle? That was bad.
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link
I was quite young at the time so my memories of it are filtered through some pornographic playground talk and eh?
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
I think some of them movies were pretty good to very good, but curated in a very questionable manner.. Was that the thing?
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
Yeah I don't remember what films they showed but as a teenager watching my black and white portable in the bedroom with the sound turned right down there was a disappointing lack of boobage.
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
I don't mind Kermode. No question he's in decline, though. No sense of crisis in his criticism at all.
― Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_triangle_(Channel_4)
Pretty decent list tbf
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
This documentary about British Bangladeshis is giving me a shameful craving for a curry
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
Themroc!
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
Very well deserved: worth watching each episode if theyโre still on iPlayer. https://t.co/sJ4GHKPgVH— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) February 26, 2020
I've only watched a bit of this and this tweet reminded me I need to go back and watch the rest because it was excellent
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
It was good, some of them old Ra lads were tough cookies
― Dunty Reggae party ๐ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
Shepherding on Scafell Pike, so nice to chill out with
― oรน sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
Is it this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hb4r
Damn, I *need* this in my life. Probably not the hottest series to be t0rrented. Will try with a vpn.
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:29 (four years ago) link
It's apparently going to shut at the end of the year. No big loss.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:07 (four years ago) link
lbi - DM me
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 May 2020 09:22 (four years ago) link
i think itโs clear that if any channel should have moved to iPlayer-only it was Four all along.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 May 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link
I could still access BBC4 through cable over here and can't access iplayer through my tv at least. Would need to get a proxy to get it through my computer.So not very happy to hear this, have enjoyed being able to watch it for the last umpteen years.
― Stevolende, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:27 (four years ago) link
xxp Done Tracer!
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 May 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link
What I don't get is that BBC4 was supposed to be the highbrow documentary & drama channel, but today's schedule looks like this
7:00pm - Stunning Soloists at the BBC (yeah, fair enough, seems like this sort of thing is on all the time though)8:00pm - Top of the Pops (I like old TOTP, but is this really the channel's remit?)8:30pm - Kermode and Mayo's Home Entertainment Service (this is standard BBC2 fare, why is it here?)9:00pm - Top of the Pops (What, again? Jive Bunny is not what I want BBC4 for)9:30pm - Eurovision at 60 (I like Eurovision! But this is not the place for it!)11:00pm - Dana: The Original Derry Girl (Is this fucking Channel 5 now?)12:00am - The People's History of Pop (Haven't seen this, could be good, middle of the night though!)1:00am - Country Music by Ken Burns (This is probably the right sort of thing, however 1am?)1:50am - Eurovision at 60 (And so on)
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 May 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
Daniel Massey's internal monologues in this are fucking hilarious. Must have been quite shocking in 1970!
― calzino, Sunday, 31 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
Britcom graveyard
Shut it down, people
― saigo no ice cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
(Looks at the schedule) Jesus. It used to be the highbrow channel, what happened?
― ledge, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
it's this week only, probably a birthday thing
― koogs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
i'm sure it was happening last week too?
― saigo no ice cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link
no, it looks normal (he says, digging the listings mag out of the recycling). there were two episodes of ever decreasing circles on the Tuesday but that was it.
there have been a lot of story ville documentaries recently, or maybe I've just been catching up with them. the Herzog one about volcanologists was last week and i watched one about midwives.
― koogs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
Friday Night Music nights are just terrible now, an hour of 70s variety performances (they have done Cilla Black, twice!) then two TOTP (ok this bit is good) then one of the 20 or so music documentaries they seem to cycle through, then a dull/predictable clip show, then a live film (which never seems to be any good, they had a 2-hour Status Quo concert from 2010 a few months ago for example - two hours! from 2010!) - I know they are operating under tight restrictions and barebones staff, but with their resources & library it's ridiculous that they can't put something better together.
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 October 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link
the wretched schedule on bbc 4 wouldn't be so bad if the rare good stuff they occasionally play was up on i-player for more than just a month. For example The Roads to Freedom that was broadcast a couple of months ago is back to not existing anymore.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 October 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
I was looking forward to getting around to watching thatโฆ one day.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 28 October 2022 07:16 (one year ago) link
I guess tricky licensing issues with older stuff.
BBC Four reshowing the Amis/Finney/folk horror Green Man from tomorrow:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p031d01y?fbclid=IwAR372ZVTKpQMhfcblAPrPuvV3x1PRttfKW5SR_1bO35ptcC1cdeHSR7lYJg
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 October 2022 08:51 (one year ago) link
caught a bit of Schama's History of Britain in passing last night and i'm sure i've noticed and been annoyed by it before but the big melty dope repeats the "rule of thumb" myth as if it was a true fact and were i in a shouting mood i would have shouted at him that he's supposed to be a fucking academic ffs
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:44 (one year ago) link
his basic shtick is tarting up trite cliched cack and passing it off as insightful. The Two Winstons episode from History of Britain was really bad. I hate to think there might be young people who are having their knowledge of history shaped by this pillock! But on the other hand it's probably still better a lot of the other shite they've put out in the last decade.
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link
The last thing I saw him in was that ego trip of a series where he basically put himself in the middle of various 20th century events.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 10:22 (one year ago) link
where he compared brexit to the nazi invasion of czechoslovakia, obv just making this up but you never know.
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 10:25 (one year ago) link
replacing the Saturday night foreign drama with Glastonbury is one thing, it being the manic Street Preachers is twisting the knife.
anyway, Beck back next week (and I'm watching the French thing from More 4 which is her from Crimson Rivers sneaking around so I'm ok for the moment)
― koogs, Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link
Yes Minister is lazily written Tory bullshit and its status as an alleged classic is rubbish
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 December 2023 21:00 (five months ago) link