is New York City dead?

I guess one thing I do wonder (and I mean wonder -- as a 40 yo dad in central queens, I'm pretty disconnected from this) -- is whether there is any single neighborhood in NYC today that feels like *the vibrant cutting edge* locus of the arts? Has there been a place like that since Bushwick peaked? Because I have a theory that geography plus COL has made that hard, as it's become more difficult to have any kind of centralized area and instead people with less money who are in the arts get spread out in many different directions.

i know multiple people with studio space in the industrial part of maspeth. get on the maspeth train while you can. thats a metaphorical train cause theres no actual train that goes there

yeah i feel like you need commercially zoned dead space for an artistic bohemian area to really work i.e. hackney wick, early williamsburg, etc

the spread-out thing sounds right to me. people lucking into decent rentals in lefferts gardens and ridgewood, workin on stuff in maspeth and in sunset park, promising to come by each other's studios, having to reschedule, settling on coffee the third thursday of next month, someplace in manhattan where their trains come together.

please stay the fuck away from windsor terrace; we got a good thing going here

Still parts of East Williamsburg green point and Bushwick that are zoned industrial and have light industry mixed with start ups and offices. My old building at Morgan and division is still filled with artists and “artisanal” craftspeople types. Ridgewood obv but now “arts” people are edging into Glendale and maspeth. I haven’t done like Bushwick open studios in a few years but with the nightlife at least it still feels pretty vibrant. There’s always plenty of stuff going on and shitty places to live even if it sucks. And I don’t know about the East village. Sure it’s been shit for years but go further downtown and you have Commend and Two Bridges or whatever.

I miss windsor terrace/Kensington very much…there was this amazing apartment I visited around there that amounted to a museum of sequential art…

see now you got me curious

who is this genius curator i wonder

mookie, I've used this guy for three things (including wills). He was free through my company so I don't know what his rates are like. But he is very accessible in chelsea, super quick responding to emails (you can do almost everything through phone calls and email), and was generally really easy to work with/pleasant. I am likely using him again this year.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-hanover-58937722/

the other thing about the village is nyu owns most of it and the parts nyu doesn’t own, nyu kids may disproportionately live, so the complaints largely seem like complaints about college kids more than anything else

(except when they become digressions about stalking and stealthily photographing and imagining murdering and violating them, which, I’m sorry, is fucking creepy)

tbf, entitled college kids are a blight upon the village. not so much they should be stalked/murdered but still.

entitled college kids are a blight upon the village earth

nyu owning most of the village is a very bad thing but i guess we can't undo that

not without seizing it anyway

^ this makes me wish the olsen twins still made movies.

thanks yerac!

yeah i feel like you need commercially zoned dead space for an artistic bohemian area to really work i.e. hackney wick, early williamsburg, etc

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand),

im hoarding empty warehouses in Patterson, NJ tell your friends!

i hear detroit is still hiring

I feel like I do hear little snatches of things through my wife's artist friends and various other random people I know and it's mostly like there's no one place anymore "I hear artists are moving to [Woodhaven, Jamaica, Brownsville, East New York, Maspeth, Glendale, Mill Basin, a tiny unnamed island off the southern coast of Long Island, a barge in the Hudson river, etc.]

are there 'cool neighborhoods' anywhere in america? is there some place where it's more fun to be a 20 y/o artist than the gentrifying edges of brooklyn at the moment? I feel like some combination of 'the internet' + all dense urban areas getting expensive/safer/'normal' in past decades has made this idea a bit archaic.

Young people are moving to the woods

not exactly what Thoreau had in mind

Thoreau was a piece of shit so

uh oh dint know Thoreau was cancelled

NYU owned a lot less of the EV when I was there, eg nothing on Ave B which was a hellscape.

Love any excuse to foist this essay on ppl https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/pond-scum

Livingston Manor is the new Williamsburg.

As my stepdad would say , “Livingstink Manure”

Rockaways seem pretty low key

until you get targeted for fare evasion cssny.org/news/entry/mta-false-fare-evasion-narrative-data

https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/nooks-and-corners-of-old-new-york

https://whitney.org/artport-commissions/new-york-apartment/

haha wow

Mayor de Blasio is indeed here at the Park Slope YMCA this morning. Passers by have commented negatively. One called him an idot. pic.twitter.com/FIgEmlf4Gf

— andrew kaczynski🤔 (@KFILE) March 16, 2020

what an idiot

indeed

do we need a separate NYC thread for our unique challenges? (if there are some)

anyway we have takeout cocktails now

https://gothamist.com/food/cuomo-announces-bars-restaurants-can-sell-go-cocktails-during-coronavirus-shutdown

lmao jesus christ

i mean good for the bars but just wild to me

I love that New York still has it’s expensive whimsies that don’t actually affect me

They should call it The Turkey's Nest Rule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDOcpEdgvJU

i mean who hasn't filled up a travel mug with booze and wandered the streets

I walked into deepest Boro Park to reach the nearest Cap1t4l One ATM (cuz yes, that's how cheap I am re fees). Still 100% Orthodox residents with 100% Latino manual labor.

PSA to new yorkers who will be ordering delivery due to the new restaurant closure (from me, a part time delivery worker) delivery workers are extremely vulnerable right now. please be considerate. here are some things you can do

— wash hands. wear mask. stay home (@wilfredchan) March 16, 2020

deBlasio was making noise about a possible future quarantining of the city

Cuomo replied that only he can do that, and he has no plans to

boy howdy

maybe they'll fight to the death

rebuild the economy with pay-per-view fights between politicians. two chairs and one weapon each.

they really should quarantine. Too many people need to be given direct instructions.

that'd be bad for me, as I don't know if im bugging out of town yet or not